neily 0 #1 June 17, 2004 I'm still a newbie at skydiving and love both the freefall and canopy ride. I've also been looking into paragliding as well. I've been thinking , ( ouch ), would it be possible to jump, freefall and then deploy a canopy that would/could be used to ride the themals and enjoy a good long canopy ride. How ace would that be.. Just a thought.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver30960 0 #2 June 17, 2004 Actually, some folks are trying to make this happen... IIRC the problem is getting a paragliding canopy to survive a terminal velocity deployment. elvisio 'need a swooping paraglider' Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipro101 0 #3 June 17, 2004 I would soooo buy one if they made a paragliding canopy for skydiving. The canopy ride is a blast! ....just dont use them for boogies...talk about congested traffic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #4 June 17, 2004 Years ago I saw a Discovery Channel show about a French guy who developed a paraglider/parachute that could be deployed in freefall. If you want a long canopy ride, get a big student canopy, or a Mil-surplus HAHO/HALO canopy, or even a tandem rig."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garycal 0 #5 June 18, 2004 Go to Areodynes web site click on paragliding choose english and follow the prompts to the videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #6 June 18, 2004 I saw an experienced paraglider getting ridge lift to climb above the exit point on a cliff jump in Norway last summer. I don't think it's that farfetched to imagine jumping somewhere that the terrain allowed sufficient ridge lift to stay aloft a _long_ time. You'd just need an oversized, highly efficient skydiving canopy.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #7 June 18, 2004 Christian Wehrfritz designed such a canopy a while back. Derek and I were going to mod a Nitro a while back to greatly increase its glide; never got around to actually doing it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jas8472 0 #8 June 18, 2004 QuoteYears ago I saw a Discovery Channel show about a French guy who developed a paraglider/parachute that could be deployed in freefall. If you want a long canopy ride, get a big student canopy, or a Mil-surplus HAHO/HALO canopy, or even a tandem rig. I saw that, it was specically designed and lazer cut but I'm sure he said it took him a few days to pack it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #9 June 18, 2004 have a peep there www.nervures.com/anglais/parachut.htmscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neily 0 #10 June 18, 2004 Cheers guys, To follow on from this, is there a maximum canopy size/wingloading restriction? Obviously the smaller canopy is classed as high performance. When would a canopy thats "too" big become a problem for the pilot, I'm thinking about skydiving canopies and not paragliding ones. I know there would be issues having a canopy floating around all day at the DZ, what other issues could there be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowie 0 #11 June 18, 2004 I paraglide and skydive and the problem I see is that the harness/legstraps would be extremely uncomfortable in no time at all. Paragliding started as a sport when skydiving canopies were used to fly off hills. I flew a large student one during my paragliding training and I have heard of people soaring on them. But to get any real gliding performance the aspect ratio needs to be in excess of 4:1 and I doubt it would be possible to guarentee an opening without a cravat or other serious mal. So saying that plenty of "acro" paraglider pilots have launched from helicopters and balloons (even bridges) so sub terminal may be possible. A paraglider is rated for 8G (snatch force) but I personally would not like to put it to the test. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #12 June 18, 2004 The French were developing such a beast for military applications ... standoff HAHO operations. They had two sizes and were jumping at least one of them last I remember. They gave a presentation at the PIA symposium in hmmmm 2001 I think.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #13 June 18, 2004 QuoteI paraglide and skydive and the problem I see is that the harness/legstraps would be extremely uncomfortable in no time at all. Paragliding started as a sport when skydiving canopies were used to fly off hills. Old military harnesses and early sport harnesses were made with a solid saddle. One peice of webbing formed the risers and ran down under your butt. The leg straps just held you in the swing. My first harness, a Crossbow has a semi solid seat. The leg straps look a lot like today's but there is another peice of webbing between the two. You can hoist your self up and sit on the harness. While paragliding harnesses are much different this isn't the major issue to solve. Deployment at terminal is the issue.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #14 June 18, 2004 QuoteI saw an experienced paraglider getting ridge lift to climb above the exit point on a cliff jump in Norway last summer. Dude thats SICK!!! Got video? Could you imagine that? "Whooooosh.....whap!!..............hey guys, who's next? " Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipro101 0 #15 June 18, 2004 QuoteYears ago I saw a Discovery Channel show about a French guy who developed a paraglider/parachute that could be deployed in freefall. If you want a long canopy ride, get a big student canopy, or a Mil-surplus HAHO/HALO canopy, or even a tandem rig. Its not about a long canopy ride. Its about a fun one. paragliders are high performance and can go UP they are just big ass barges. There is a big difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #16 June 19, 2004 oh BTW, I don't know your weight, but a LOW wingloading might help. In good thermal weather conditions, you can stay flying quite a nice time... Beware, freefall canopies react differently with a low WL...scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #17 June 19, 2004 I don't know why I forgot about this; Enjoy: http://www.paraflite.com/html/paris.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites