Just 10 PEOPLE to prove me wrong!!

[bluestreak 0]

First off, I am one of those jumpers that finds the most excitement in landing. I love freeflying, but I enjoy the last 1000 ft the most.
This being said, I do not enjoy when many others "mix it up" constantly in landing patterns for their own enjoyment. Landing downwind, crossing paths, turning super low, etc. These can be dangerous more than anything else, especially when not everyone is adequately experienced.
I like employing different methods of landing, but only when I'm away from others and in the appropriate conditions, or I have notified others of my intentions. I know it sounds tedious and un-enthusiastic, but it's safe.
I'm just curious to know if there are 10 (only 10) people that would disagree with me, because it almost always seems that there are a few that don't conform to this when I'M landing!! Let me know.

[JoeyRamone 0]

You do whatever makes you happy and does not cause harm to others.

[skydived19006 4]

I agree do whatever makes you happy. This is America; you should have the right to do whatever you like as long as it doesn’t interfere with or affect anyone else. The only question I have is when you screw yourself into the ground (and I’m sure it’ll happen) does killing yourself or critically injuring yourself qualify as “not affecting others”?

Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else.

AC DZ

[speedy 0]

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The only question I have is when you screw yourself into the ground (and I’m sure it’ll happen)

What's makes you so sure he will screw himself into the ground?

Dave

Fallschirmsport Marl

[stateofnature 0]

unfortunately alot of DZ's have a policy that you land like the first one down, NO MATTER, because when there are 24 people getting out of the plane, judgement can lead to canopy collisions in confusion or slowly turning windsocks

a safe bet is to have a seperate landing area for swoopers, and it would be your decision to land there, in any direction. anyone outside the scope of the high performance landing area must land the same direction and hopefully into the wind.

[hookitt 1]

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The only question I have is when you screw yourself into the ground (and I’m sure it’ll happen)

Are you a hookturn Nazi? His rant/vent was about people not conforming to a good landing pattern.

To the original poster: I love to land in many directions as well. When our pond is full, people are notified of our landing intentions. It really helps keep people away from the pond since it generally requires a down or cross wind landing approach.

Stay safe out there.

My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto

[thelem 0]

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This is America

Actually, this is the world. You want dropzone.us (or whatever your US-only site is called)

Also, maybe its me, but people seem to be misreading the original post. Is he not complaining about how other people are landing - people who are not landing in the conventional direction (ie into wind or with the first person, depending on the dz) and who have not told the others on the load that they will be landing in a different direction.

[ianmdrennan 2]

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unfortunately alot of DZ's have a policy that you land like the first one down, NO MATTER, because when there are 24 people getting out of the plane, judgement can lead to canopy collisions in confusion or slowly turning windsocks

I've always kinda liked that system. I'd rather have a whole load of downwinders than someone flying "into" traffic on final. I loved landing in the experienced area in Eloy - 2 directions (either one way or the other) and follow the first person down
I'm sure some people will squeak about taking the downwinder/crosswinder but if they honestly can't take a downwinder/crosswinder, then maybe they should reconsider their canopy choices or seek schooling on handling those conditions.

Flame on people

Blue skies
Ian

Performance Designs Factory Team

[bluestreak 0]

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The only question I have is when you screw yourself into the ground (and I’m sure it’ll happen) does killing yourself or critically injuring yourself qualify as “not affecting others”?

I just got back to this, and the comments in response were a little stirred (especially this one), Man- let's not be so pessimistic about the possibilities. Remember: the goal is to have fun and NOT get hurt. I think it's horrible to think the worst of hypothetical situations in skydiving, we should anticipate them, but never expect them. GEEEZ!

[tattoojeff 0]

i dont really understand your post. you stated others ''mixing it up " bothers you but then stated you enjoy different landing methods also.
and what do you mean by

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I'm just curious to know if there are 10 (only 10) people that would disagree with me, because it almost always seems that there are a few that don't conform to this when I'M landing!! Let me know.

maybee im just slow but i dont understand what you looking for.


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[ZoneRat 0]

ok. I'll try my hand at proving ya wrong.
If you're experiencing unkind traffic during the last 1000 feet, it's kinda your fault.

Why would I say this?

'cause you jump a sorta lightly loaded Spectre and are a freeflier.

This means you are probably one of the last to leave the plane (FF), the last to enter the landing pattern and the last to turn onto final and land (Spectre @ 1.23).

Since you don't have a high wingloading, common courtesy asks that you provide some vertical separation from the rest of the load. Then once all the heavily loaded VX's, Velocities and such are below ya, you can goof about at will, and land pretty much by yourself, rather than lumbering through their high performance set ups.

If the ferrari's get down fast and the mediums stay in the middle and the lightly loaded canopies stay high, everyone gets to play a little bit without creating undue confusion on final.

How's that? Did I win?

“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies.”

[Designer 0]

Some days are just better than others!Just this past weekend I noticed alot of the jumpers "Not" paying attention when it came to landing into the wind.Days when the wind speed and direction can and do change repeatedly seem to give almost everybody some problems.Notice I said almost everybody.Some of our most experienced jumpers "Always" land into the wind!These are the ones who always follow the "Landing Pattern" and should be watched from the air to help if your not sure.I,m sure some others have noticed this and know who to follow and who not to follow.Think about that the next time the beer light goes on and there might be some education coming out of talking about landing procedures.

[Squeak 17]

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I agree do whatever makes you happy. This is America; ”?

That's funny it don't look like America from where I sit

You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky)
My Life ROCKS!
How's yours doing?

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

I'm still at the stage that wherever I jump, there's a low-timers' landing area. At SoBe, it was south of the tarmac near the wind sock and wind tee. I jumped for the first time at Clewiston (Air Adventures) last weekend, and was instructed about the location of the "student landing area." I can't remember if I was told to land there, but I think it was expected (I had 78 jumps at the time, and now have 80).

I am not too proud to land in the "student landing area" no matter where I jump.

Since the fact is that I am a relatively inexperienced skydiver, why should I try to pose as anything else? In time I'll have the jumps and experience to safely land in the "advanced landing areas" wherever I go.

In the meantime, I land in the places that are safest for people of my skill level. They tend to be wide and free of obstructions, and they also are low-traffic areas, generally.

The fun of my skydive is not based much on where I land, but how I land: safely or unsafely. I simply want to be able to gather my canopy, pack it, and skydive again. If I land 75 yards away in the "advanced" area, it has no effect on how much fun I had in freefall, or on my landing flare.

I think that if people are going to get bugged at the antics of others, they may well be justified, BUT, if they are honest about it, they must realize that there is little they can do to change those who will land in all the crazy ways you griped about. They CAN, however, opt to land away from the others in a part of the field that leaves them relatively safe from others' poor judgment or skill or recklessness.

So take it for what it is: that is my recommendation to anyone who doesn't want to land where people are hot-dogging or being unobservant and dangerous. Land elsewhere and you'll live to land again.
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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"