winsor 236 #51 January 16, 2004 Quote With all due respect to Winsor (a friend and a very smart guy), I have not changed my position on this subject. I should not have implied that there was any change to the approach to spotting on the basis of my treatise on the subject (or Fred Leslie's or John Kallend's, for that matter), since that wasn't the point. Given the tools that are available to a jump pilot, ground speed gives the only measure that is useful for determining separation at opening, and I don't know anyone who does a better job - regardless of how they go about it. I considered a response of "okay, that's legitimate" to the theory behind the physical models that we use to be as close to a change of standpoint as I meant to convey. Up until that point, there was no suggestion that any other model had merit. I am by constitution a semanticist, and do make a distinction between theory and practice. For theory I'll turn to Doctors Leslie and Kallend, but in practice nobody is better than Mike Mullins. It will be a cold day in hell that I presume to tell Mike Mullins how to fly an airplane.... Blue skies, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EDYDO 0 #52 January 17, 2004 Quote Big sky theory almost got me at Eloy.We (Two way) were first out followed by a solo then the freeflyers.We both tracked off the wind line and damn if the solo didn't blow by me at 2800 about 35 yards away. Ya gotta read all of those label warnings, do the best you can, keep your eyes open and take your chances. Fortunately, it is a big sky or most of us would not be around. Ed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #53 January 17, 2004 See what you've learned... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saramorgan 0 #54 January 19, 2004 I try to get students used to counting out loud and with fingers, so they don't rush through the count too fast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites