jejejelle 0 #1 February 4, 2004 inspired by skyange1`s cypres save thread i`m thinking about the following.. is it possible to dive out and after clearing the stabilo yank the PC and open your chute ?? i`m really not sure :) I keep visualizing myself flipping over my canopy and/or getting entangled with the canopy or PC because of the relative wind coming from behind any thoughts about this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #2 February 4, 2004 Yes. Provided you can remain stable with the relative wind oriented properly.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #3 February 4, 2004 Wind is wind. Think about the relative wind on exit. As long as you've got yourself belly to the relative wind it should open fine. If you dive out, then the relative wind should be hitting your belly. You'll be head down to earth, but belly into the relative wind. Its fun to do, just like any other deployment, make sure you're stable.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jejejelle 0 #4 February 4, 2004 will try this weekend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bmcd308 0 #5 February 4, 2004 >>is it possible to dive out and after clearing the stabilo yank the PC and open your chute ?? << Yes. That is how I normally do hop and pops. Go out diving down just like you are a late diver chasing a formation. Pull. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveMonkey 0 #6 February 4, 2004 I always just dive and do a 180 turn____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wallygator 0 #7 February 4, 2004 QuoteI always just dive and do a 180 turn i did a dive out hop and pop and the bridle caught the back of my sandle so a 180 turn sounds like something i should have done, play safe -------------------------------------------------- who Jah bless Let no man curse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bch7773 0 #8 February 4, 2004 what you are describing is basically the static line exit. just jump out, belly into wind, head up, and hard arch while you deploy. a little bit harder without the strut to help, but we have hundreds of these exits every year at our DZ with no major problems. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chuteless 1 #9 February 4, 2004 I dont know what aircraft you are using, but Ive pulled while standing on the step and the chute always cleared the tail, yanking me right off the step. Its an awesome feeling because the whole chute opens horizontal rather than vertical. This was of a Cessna l80 usually, and referred to as a pull and clear instead of a clear and pull.. Bill Cole D41 By the way...Im not advocating anyone try it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #10 February 4, 2004 Did the pilot know you were going to do that? If he/she did, then they may have had the plane at a different angle/slip to help you out. I know I wouldn't want to pull standing on the step of a 182, or in the door of a King Air for sure. Actually, come to think of it, I don't think I would ever want to do that. Too bad there isn't any video of you doing that Bill, that would be something to see!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chuteless 1 #11 February 4, 2004 Ive done it without the pilot knowing, and with. Some were done during the filming of a beer commercial at 1000 feet. The side slip probably helps, but I found it worked without it. The whole canopy and lines strings out alongside the plane, and the canopy actually begins to inflate behind the aircraft, pulling me off the step. Bill Cole D-41 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jejejelle 0 #12 February 4, 2004 Quotewhat you are describing is basically the static line exit. just jump out, belly into wind, head up, and hard arch while you deploy. a little bit harder without the strut to help, but we have hundreds of these exits every year at our DZ with no major problems. static line students diving out backwards?? I did S/L progression and we sat in the door, never thought of diving out with S/L , maybe something to try also this weekend hehe j/k think if i did that they ground me for sure Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydivingNurse 0 #13 February 4, 2004 Quotebut Ive pulled while standing on the step and the chute always cleared the tail, yanking me right off the step. Its an awesome feeling because the whole chute opens horizontal rather than vertical. Oh my goodness, does sound like scary fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jejejelle 0 #14 February 4, 2004 QuoteQuotebut Ive pulled while standing on the step and the chute always cleared the tail, yanking me right off the step. Its an awesome feeling because the whole chute opens horizontal rather than vertical. Oh my goodness, does sound like scary fun. would that be possible out the door of an cessna grand caravan?? not sure about the tail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveMonkey 0 #15 February 4, 2004 You could do it - you'd probably rip the tail off though . Anyone else seen the vid of the reserve deployment on the step of a porter? Scary stuff____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bch7773 0 #16 February 4, 2004 QuoteQuotewhat you are describing is basically the static line exit. just jump out, belly into wind, head up, and hard arch while you deploy. a little bit harder without the strut to help, but we have hundreds of these exits every year at our DZ with no major problems. static line students diving out backwards?? I did S/L progression and we sat in the door, never thought of diving out with S/L , maybe something to try also this weekend hehe j/k think if i did that they ground me for sure no no, they aren't going out backwards. I think i may have explained it wrong then... you want to have your belly into the relative wind, and facing the front of the plane. and you really aren't diving out... you are jumping sideways out the door, and then pulling immediately while maintaining a hard arch. it would be just like a PRCP, but only hopping sideways out the door instead of hanging onto the strut. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites akjmpplt 0 #17 February 4, 2004 Is the video of the reserve deployment on the Porter available anywhere? Would be great for a Safety Day presentation.SmugMug Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveMonkey 0 #18 February 4, 2004 I'll upload it and post a link.____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveMonkey 0 #19 February 4, 2004 Clicky 3.1 megs____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,027 #20 February 5, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuotewhat you are describing is basically the static line exit. just jump out, belly into wind, head up, and hard arch while you deploy. a little bit harder without the strut to help, but we have hundreds of these exits every year at our DZ with no major problems. static line students diving out backwards?? I did S/L progression and we sat in the door, never thought of diving out with S/L , maybe something to try also this weekend hehe j/k think if i did that they ground me for sure no no, they aren't going out backwards. I think i may have explained it wrong then... you want to have your belly into the relative wind, and facing the front of the plane. and you really aren't diving out... you are jumping sideways out the door, and then pulling immediately while maintaining a hard arch. it would be just like a PRCP, but only hopping sideways out the door instead of hanging onto the strut. I don't think that is what was described in the original post. He clearly wrote about diving out.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skygod7777 0 #21 February 5, 2004 yup i do this all the time, it's kinda cool watching you canopy open on level with you, or even a little below. later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jejejelle 0 #22 February 5, 2004 waaoohhh that is scary stuff , those guys were lucky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #23 February 5, 2004 You might better be able to help if the situation jejejelle is describing from the other thread is more fully described. What happened was there was an aircraft emergency and the pilot ordered everyone off low. Because of the low altitude and loss of an engine the orientation of the plane was of a climbing pass. 10 people got out fine but one person did a poised student style exit and hit their head on the tail precipitating a cypres fire. I think the full question jejejelle is asking is "What would be everyones reccomended exit pos for such a situation? 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bmcd308 0 #5 February 4, 2004 >>is it possible to dive out and after clearing the stabilo yank the PC and open your chute ?? << Yes. That is how I normally do hop and pops. Go out diving down just like you are a late diver chasing a formation. Pull. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #6 February 4, 2004 I always just dive and do a 180 turn____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallygator 0 #7 February 4, 2004 QuoteI always just dive and do a 180 turn i did a dive out hop and pop and the bridle caught the back of my sandle so a 180 turn sounds like something i should have done, play safe -------------------------------------------------- who Jah bless Let no man curse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #8 February 4, 2004 what you are describing is basically the static line exit. just jump out, belly into wind, head up, and hard arch while you deploy. a little bit harder without the strut to help, but we have hundreds of these exits every year at our DZ with no major problems. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #9 February 4, 2004 I dont know what aircraft you are using, but Ive pulled while standing on the step and the chute always cleared the tail, yanking me right off the step. Its an awesome feeling because the whole chute opens horizontal rather than vertical. This was of a Cessna l80 usually, and referred to as a pull and clear instead of a clear and pull.. Bill Cole D41 By the way...Im not advocating anyone try it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #10 February 4, 2004 Did the pilot know you were going to do that? If he/she did, then they may have had the plane at a different angle/slip to help you out. I know I wouldn't want to pull standing on the step of a 182, or in the door of a King Air for sure. Actually, come to think of it, I don't think I would ever want to do that. Too bad there isn't any video of you doing that Bill, that would be something to see!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #11 February 4, 2004 Ive done it without the pilot knowing, and with. Some were done during the filming of a beer commercial at 1000 feet. The side slip probably helps, but I found it worked without it. The whole canopy and lines strings out alongside the plane, and the canopy actually begins to inflate behind the aircraft, pulling me off the step. Bill Cole D-41 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jejejelle 0 #12 February 4, 2004 Quotewhat you are describing is basically the static line exit. just jump out, belly into wind, head up, and hard arch while you deploy. a little bit harder without the strut to help, but we have hundreds of these exits every year at our DZ with no major problems. static line students diving out backwards?? I did S/L progression and we sat in the door, never thought of diving out with S/L , maybe something to try also this weekend hehe j/k think if i did that they ground me for sure Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydivingNurse 0 #13 February 4, 2004 Quotebut Ive pulled while standing on the step and the chute always cleared the tail, yanking me right off the step. Its an awesome feeling because the whole chute opens horizontal rather than vertical. Oh my goodness, does sound like scary fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jejejelle 0 #14 February 4, 2004 QuoteQuotebut Ive pulled while standing on the step and the chute always cleared the tail, yanking me right off the step. Its an awesome feeling because the whole chute opens horizontal rather than vertical. Oh my goodness, does sound like scary fun. would that be possible out the door of an cessna grand caravan?? not sure about the tail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveMonkey 0 #15 February 4, 2004 You could do it - you'd probably rip the tail off though . Anyone else seen the vid of the reserve deployment on the step of a porter? Scary stuff____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bch7773 0 #16 February 4, 2004 QuoteQuotewhat you are describing is basically the static line exit. just jump out, belly into wind, head up, and hard arch while you deploy. a little bit harder without the strut to help, but we have hundreds of these exits every year at our DZ with no major problems. static line students diving out backwards?? I did S/L progression and we sat in the door, never thought of diving out with S/L , maybe something to try also this weekend hehe j/k think if i did that they ground me for sure no no, they aren't going out backwards. I think i may have explained it wrong then... you want to have your belly into the relative wind, and facing the front of the plane. and you really aren't diving out... you are jumping sideways out the door, and then pulling immediately while maintaining a hard arch. it would be just like a PRCP, but only hopping sideways out the door instead of hanging onto the strut. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites akjmpplt 0 #17 February 4, 2004 Is the video of the reserve deployment on the Porter available anywhere? Would be great for a Safety Day presentation.SmugMug Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveMonkey 0 #18 February 4, 2004 I'll upload it and post a link.____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveMonkey 0 #19 February 4, 2004 Clicky 3.1 megs____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,027 #20 February 5, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuotewhat you are describing is basically the static line exit. just jump out, belly into wind, head up, and hard arch while you deploy. a little bit harder without the strut to help, but we have hundreds of these exits every year at our DZ with no major problems. static line students diving out backwards?? I did S/L progression and we sat in the door, never thought of diving out with S/L , maybe something to try also this weekend hehe j/k think if i did that they ground me for sure no no, they aren't going out backwards. I think i may have explained it wrong then... you want to have your belly into the relative wind, and facing the front of the plane. and you really aren't diving out... you are jumping sideways out the door, and then pulling immediately while maintaining a hard arch. it would be just like a PRCP, but only hopping sideways out the door instead of hanging onto the strut. I don't think that is what was described in the original post. He clearly wrote about diving out.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skygod7777 0 #21 February 5, 2004 yup i do this all the time, it's kinda cool watching you canopy open on level with you, or even a little below. later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jejejelle 0 #22 February 5, 2004 waaoohhh that is scary stuff , those guys were lucky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #23 February 5, 2004 You might better be able to help if the situation jejejelle is describing from the other thread is more fully described. What happened was there was an aircraft emergency and the pilot ordered everyone off low. Because of the low altitude and loss of an engine the orientation of the plane was of a climbing pass. 10 people got out fine but one person did a poised student style exit and hit their head on the tail precipitating a cypres fire. I think the full question jejejelle is asking is "What would be everyones reccomended exit pos for such a situation? Either for main or reserve?" (sorry jejejelle if Im putting words in your mouth) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #24 February 5, 2004 can't open clicky, what type of media do i need? thx for help. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveMonkey 0 #25 February 5, 2004 Winblows Media Player (9 usually does most formats)____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. 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SkydiveMonkey 0 #15 February 4, 2004 You could do it - you'd probably rip the tail off though . Anyone else seen the vid of the reserve deployment on the step of a porter? Scary stuff____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #16 February 4, 2004 QuoteQuotewhat you are describing is basically the static line exit. just jump out, belly into wind, head up, and hard arch while you deploy. a little bit harder without the strut to help, but we have hundreds of these exits every year at our DZ with no major problems. static line students diving out backwards?? I did S/L progression and we sat in the door, never thought of diving out with S/L , maybe something to try also this weekend hehe j/k think if i did that they ground me for sure no no, they aren't going out backwards. I think i may have explained it wrong then... you want to have your belly into the relative wind, and facing the front of the plane. and you really aren't diving out... you are jumping sideways out the door, and then pulling immediately while maintaining a hard arch. it would be just like a PRCP, but only hopping sideways out the door instead of hanging onto the strut. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akjmpplt 0 #17 February 4, 2004 Is the video of the reserve deployment on the Porter available anywhere? Would be great for a Safety Day presentation.SmugMug Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #18 February 4, 2004 I'll upload it and post a link.____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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kallend 2,027 #20 February 5, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuotewhat you are describing is basically the static line exit. just jump out, belly into wind, head up, and hard arch while you deploy. a little bit harder without the strut to help, but we have hundreds of these exits every year at our DZ with no major problems. static line students diving out backwards?? I did S/L progression and we sat in the door, never thought of diving out with S/L , maybe something to try also this weekend hehe j/k think if i did that they ground me for sure no no, they aren't going out backwards. I think i may have explained it wrong then... you want to have your belly into the relative wind, and facing the front of the plane. and you really aren't diving out... you are jumping sideways out the door, and then pulling immediately while maintaining a hard arch. it would be just like a PRCP, but only hopping sideways out the door instead of hanging onto the strut. I don't think that is what was described in the original post. He clearly wrote about diving out.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #21 February 5, 2004 yup i do this all the time, it's kinda cool watching you canopy open on level with you, or even a little below. later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jejejelle 0 #22 February 5, 2004 waaoohhh that is scary stuff , those guys were lucky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #23 February 5, 2004 You might better be able to help if the situation jejejelle is describing from the other thread is more fully described. What happened was there was an aircraft emergency and the pilot ordered everyone off low. Because of the low altitude and loss of an engine the orientation of the plane was of a climbing pass. 10 people got out fine but one person did a poised student style exit and hit their head on the tail precipitating a cypres fire. I think the full question jejejelle is asking is "What would be everyones reccomended exit pos for such a situation? Either for main or reserve?" (sorry jejejelle if Im putting words in your mouth) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #24 February 5, 2004 can't open clicky, what type of media do i need? thx for help. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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