SKYWHUFFO 1 #1 February 2, 2004 OK! It's time to clear up some confusion. Where is the fastest jumpship? If you read much Mullins Kingair claims the title, the kingair in Jacksonville Fl claims the title, another in TX claims the title. What is the truth? I think maybe we need a race lets say at the WFFC? This should be a good discussion, so please help clear the confusion. Also to clarify, the spaceshuttle is still grounded and it's not a jumpship!!!HA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #2 February 2, 2004 Not that my sources are 100% correct. But I've been told that the King Air in Titusville is faster (not by much) than Mullins' King Air. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 February 2, 2004 No matter who claims they're the fastest, it's a silly idea and there is no reason why any of these folks would want to participate in any contest to find out.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #4 February 2, 2004 What about the An-72?____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #5 February 2, 2004 QuoteOK! It's time to clear up some confusion. Where is the fastest jumpship? Check point #8 here: http://www.skydivelasvegas.com/reasons.html Other claims are interesting too... (like #11, considering that they are talking MSL, not AGL). But wuffos don't know better, so... What's the elevation of Skydive Las Vegas, anyways? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rendezvous 0 #6 February 2, 2004 I don't see the point behind why it should matter. 3 or 4 min here or there doesn't really matter to me as a jumper. Unless you are talking some 10 odd minutes faster in speed difference I don't really care who's the fastest or the point behind competiting for the title. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mfrese 0 #7 February 2, 2004 I've jumped Nardi's King Air, I'm hoping to jump Mullins' King Air while it's still in Taft, I've jumped the "Rocket" Skyvan at Deland, and while I don't think any of them really care who's the fastest, all I know is they're all freakin' FAST, and that's a really good thing for whoever is jumpin' out of 'em. Doctor I ain't gonna die, Just write me an alibi! ---- Lemmy/Slash Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivingdutch 0 #8 February 2, 2004 What about the Boeing 747-400 that Harrison Ford's staff jumped out of in Air Force One? http://dropman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #9 February 2, 2004 QuoteQuoteOK! It's time to clear up some confusion. Where is the fastest jumpship? Check point #8 here: http://www.skydivelasvegas.com/reasons.html Other claims are interesting too... (like #11, And #6 and #8.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #10 February 2, 2004 Quote#2 Only SLV has a "First Timers" Complete Satisfaction Money Back Guarantee I wonder.....---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koz2000 1 #11 February 2, 2004 What about #25. I've put a few jumps elsewhere than SLV. Last time I was at Eloy, there were some PJ's jumping. Also Elv: at Boulder City Mun (61B) is 2201' = 12799' of jump alt.______________________________________________ - Does this small canopy make my balls look big? - J. Hayes - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #12 February 2, 2004 Quote(like #11, considering that they are talking MSL, not AGL) Quote# Only SLV can take you to 15,000’msl, for the highest exit altitude in the United States, where you’ll freefall for 60 seconds at 120mph.. Tempted to send them an email and tell them that most of my jumps in Colorado have been from 17,500 MSL or higher, including tandems.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #13 February 2, 2004 QuoteAnd #6 and #8. And practically everything else not relating to the geography of Nevada. Edit: What mistake? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #14 February 2, 2004 Quote# Only SLV can take you to 15,000’msl, for the highest exit altitude in the United States, where you’ll freefall for 60 seconds at 120mph.. 15,000MSL? Damn! I haven't exited that low since a few months back when we had a low cloud layer."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #15 February 2, 2004 like they will ever change those reasons. something tells me that unless they got sued, they are gonna keep making up fake reasons to do a tandem there. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #16 February 2, 2004 Has no one defined fastest? It appears everyone is assuming fastest means fastest per person with a full load, i.e. what any one of us would find if we got on such a plane with a stopwatch. Doesn't useful single-jump-run capacity count for anything? -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stik 0 #17 February 3, 2004 Did you see this part? http://www.skydivelasvegas.com/experienced_jumpers.html QuoteExperienced Jumpers Because of past problems with "fun jumpers" breaking our rules; SLV will no longer accept fun jumpers who have not graduated from our SLV student program. Warning / Danger: You could receive serious & permanent injuries, or even die while participating in aviation and skydiving activities. Pete Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nbblood 0 #18 February 3, 2004 As far as SLV goes, those that have been in that area know the DZ is well known for its dirty politics and less than cordial attitude to fun jumpers. However, I've heard the DZ recently changed owners, maybe it'll change. As far as fastest jumpship, I know I've been from the ground to 12000 AGL in 4 minutes in a Blackhawk helicopter. Don't think the King Airs are gonna keep up with that. On the other hand, don't know of any DZs that are operating Blackhawks either. Also, it wasn't exactly a fun ride and hypoxia could be more of an issue at that rapid of an ascent. Maybe someday DZs will have Blackhawks though. With seats out it'd be a great jump ship. Exit both sides, big doors, rapid ascent, 20 or so jumpers with seats out, would be cool. Oh, I take it back, I do know a DZ that operates a Blackhawk.....Fort Campbell Sport Parachute Activity. Of course you have to have a DOD ID card to use that DZ.......I'll tell you how it is when I get there.....lol Blues, NathanBlues, Nathan If you wait 'til the last minute, it'll only take a minute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #19 February 3, 2004 QuoteExperienced Jumpers Because of past problems with "fun jumpers" breaking our rules; SLV will no longer accept fun jumpers who have not graduated from our SLV student program. Rule #1 - don't tell the whuffos that we're lying to them about the reasons to jump here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WFFC 1 #20 February 3, 2004 QuoteQuoteExperienced Jumpers Because of past problems with "fun jumpers" breaking our rules; SLV will no longer accept fun jumpers who have not graduated from our SLV student program. Rule #1 - don't tell the whuffos that we're lying to them about the reasons to jump here. There's more to the story that led to this - Had a long chat with SDLV a few years ago and got the full story why.----- ~~~Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #21 February 3, 2004 Mullins. I have been in the Titusville one, and Many jumps from Mikes. Mike wins. You have to take into account the field elevation. A plane will climb faster from sea level than from 1,000 feet. I have very little doubt that if both planes lined up and were given a starting signal that Mike would win."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #22 February 3, 2004 How is hypoxia more of a problem on a rapid ascent? SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #23 February 3, 2004 QuoteHow is hypoxia more of a problem on a rapid ascent? Sparky Maybe he meant "the bends". -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #24 February 3, 2004 Actually, hypoxia should be less of an issue with a rapid climb to jump altitude.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyyhi 0 #25 February 3, 2004 Sorry Quade, but were my dad still piloting aircraft, a challenge like this would put him in the cockpit FASTER THAN LIGHTNING just to see what he could do. (please note that my dad used to do pylon racing and other stunts in his PT-22 Ryan at airshows - he also raced tunnel boats and now builds high performance muscle cars for fun).________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
