Vertifly 0 #51 January 16, 2004 "Someone finally said it." -from Jerry McGuire I think that Jerry got fired the next day. No Really, just kidding. Thanks for helping me out. What is all of this bullcrap? Just get out there and have fun. The only person who can decide whether you are a freeflyer or not is YOURSELF. Thanks bella. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kyros1 0 #52 January 16, 2004 As an instructor said to me on my first freefly coach jump.... 1.You get on the plane 2. You make noise on the plane 3. You exit 4. When you land you say... WAOW that was a wonderful head down LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lazyfrog 0 #53 January 16, 2004 freefly pants a complete freeflyer does anything, but you can still do just "one kind" of freefly jump...---------- Fumer tue, péter pue ------------- ourson #10, Mosquito Uno, CBT 579 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jannas 0 #54 January 16, 2004 rw-flyers got the rw-suits and free flyers got their cool outfits.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites WrongWay 0 #55 January 16, 2004 First of all, I didn't read the whole thread so if someone had something awesome to say, sorry I missed it. Anyway, damn dude, that's a good question!! I wish I could answer it... I guess the idea of being a freeflyer is to be able to fly on every surface of your body. (Yes, bellyflying is still freeflying....) However, even if a person can just sitfly, it's still a freefly dive. So this becomes a very difficult question due to this very fact. IMHO, here's how you figure it out. If you go out to the dz wearing a baggy freefly suit, have hair color other than your natural tone (like purple), listen to techno like it's religion, have lots of tattoos and/or piercings, never dirt dive, never plan the exit till 10 grand, and say "DUDE THAT WAS AWESOME" if you just hovered in front of them for 9000 ft, then you're a freeflyer. Just my $.99 super value meal Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #56 January 16, 2004 QuoteFreeFlyer = Being able to hold a sit or head down position and intentionally docking another skydiver in freefall. Until then = FreeFlailer The funny thing is the AFF students I have gratuated in the last few years have all gone straight to what they call FreeFlying. But whats really funny is sometimes after seeing them do a couple hundred FF jumps and then getting to do a FreeFly jump with them, I have found that they cant even hold a head down and mostly just start with a head down on the beginning of the jump and cork, then just go into a sit for the rest of the skydive...... What they need to get better is coaching from a FreeFlyer to become one..... With being in the sport long before it was called FreeFlying, it was just called having alot of fun and going REALLY F**KING FAST Just my .02 Nailed it. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites WrongWay 0 #57 January 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteFreeFlyer = Being able to hold a sit or head down position and intentionally docking another skydiver in freefall. Until then = FreeFlailer The funny thing is the AFF students I have gratuated in the last few years have all gone straight to what they call FreeFlying. But whats really funny is sometimes after seeing them do a couple hundred FF jumps and then getting to do a FreeFly jump with them, I have found that they cant even hold a head down and mostly just start with a head down on the beginning of the jump and cork, then just go into a sit for the rest of the skydive...... What they need to get better is coaching from a FreeFlyer to become one..... With being in the sport long before it was called FreeFlying, it was just called having alot of fun and going REALLY F**KING FAST Just my .02 Nailed it. OH YEAH, NAILED IT. BRAVO. Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dgskydive 0 #58 January 16, 2004 QuoteIf you go out to the dz wearing a baggy freefly suit, have hair color other than your natural tone (like purple), listen to techno like it's religion, have lots of tattoos and/or piercings, never dirt dive, never plan the exit till 10 grand, and say "DUDE THAT WAS AWESOME" if you just hovered in front of them for 9000 ft, then you're a freeflyer. Not fair there. I don't consider myself a freeflyer and I do a bunch of those things and some you didn't list.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamsville 0 #59 January 16, 2004 I kind of agree. This thread has been worked over pretty hard. |I don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane. Harry, FB #4143 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GARYC24 3 #60 January 16, 2004 Anyone who manifest doing anything other than RW ,CRW load or student load. Or sometimes a flat and stable solo, oh and a board,too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GravityGirl 0 #61 January 16, 2004 Being free from classifications such as this. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites champu 1 #62 January 17, 2004 Quoterw-flyers got the rw-suits and free flyers got their cool outfits..Ahem... Are you suggesting that grippers aren't the coolest part of a suit? I think of "freeflying" as a discipline. There is a lot to learn in any discipline of skydiving. You shouldn't pick nits about what you call someone based on what stage of the learning process they're in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FallingILweenie 0 #63 January 18, 2004 what makes one a freeflyer?....wearing a camera...DUH!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,027 #64 January 18, 2004 QuoteQuoteI'd say you're a freeflyer, but in these cases you aren't necessarily more "free" than the rw'er. All I'm trying to say. It's 1 position vs multiple positions Ive never seen an RW guy do a flip or cartwheel in his/her routine, but I have seen plenty of freeflyers do them while staying in a sit the whole dive. You haven't been around long, then. Backflips as part of RW transitions go back to the '70s. Don't see them in "official" competitions any more, but we had them in a 10-way scrambles last fall.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,027 #65 January 18, 2004 QuoteThen by your definition, Majik, Airspeed, and GK are freeflyers. I've seen Airspeed do a very nifty 10-way knee-fly routine.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vertifly 0 #66 January 18, 2004 This is the last time I'm going to post to this thread because I think that the majority of responses here are baseless. So here it goes: Wake up and smell the coffee, people. Just get out there and do what you love to do best - FLY!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skr 1 #67 January 22, 2004 To me freedom is not a body position. It's an attitude. Skr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Unstable 9 #68 January 22, 2004 QuoteWake up and smell the coffee, people. Just get out there and do what you love to do best - FLY!!! I agree, Lets all let this thread die like is should....=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dgskydive 0 #69 January 22, 2004 It was dead for three days. You two brought it back.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Unstable 9 #70 January 22, 2004 QuoteIt was dead for three days. You two brought it back. Now you just brought the dumb thing back! It was working it's way down the Threads on it's way to the grave!!!=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dgskydive 0 #71 January 22, 2004 Well stop posting then.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hookitt 1 #72 January 22, 2004 QuoteWell stop posting then.You firstMy grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dgskydive 0 #73 January 22, 2004 No you! I am not a quitter!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 3 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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kyros1 0 #52 January 16, 2004 As an instructor said to me on my first freefly coach jump.... 1.You get on the plane 2. You make noise on the plane 3. You exit 4. When you land you say... WAOW that was a wonderful head down LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazyfrog 0 #53 January 16, 2004 freefly pants a complete freeflyer does anything, but you can still do just "one kind" of freefly jump...---------- Fumer tue, péter pue ------------- ourson #10, Mosquito Uno, CBT 579 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jannas 0 #54 January 16, 2004 rw-flyers got the rw-suits and free flyers got their cool outfits.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #55 January 16, 2004 First of all, I didn't read the whole thread so if someone had something awesome to say, sorry I missed it. Anyway, damn dude, that's a good question!! I wish I could answer it... I guess the idea of being a freeflyer is to be able to fly on every surface of your body. (Yes, bellyflying is still freeflying....) However, even if a person can just sitfly, it's still a freefly dive. So this becomes a very difficult question due to this very fact. IMHO, here's how you figure it out. If you go out to the dz wearing a baggy freefly suit, have hair color other than your natural tone (like purple), listen to techno like it's religion, have lots of tattoos and/or piercings, never dirt dive, never plan the exit till 10 grand, and say "DUDE THAT WAS AWESOME" if you just hovered in front of them for 9000 ft, then you're a freeflyer. Just my $.99 super value meal Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #56 January 16, 2004 QuoteFreeFlyer = Being able to hold a sit or head down position and intentionally docking another skydiver in freefall. Until then = FreeFlailer The funny thing is the AFF students I have gratuated in the last few years have all gone straight to what they call FreeFlying. But whats really funny is sometimes after seeing them do a couple hundred FF jumps and then getting to do a FreeFly jump with them, I have found that they cant even hold a head down and mostly just start with a head down on the beginning of the jump and cork, then just go into a sit for the rest of the skydive...... What they need to get better is coaching from a FreeFlyer to become one..... With being in the sport long before it was called FreeFlying, it was just called having alot of fun and going REALLY F**KING FAST Just my .02 Nailed it. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #57 January 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteFreeFlyer = Being able to hold a sit or head down position and intentionally docking another skydiver in freefall. Until then = FreeFlailer The funny thing is the AFF students I have gratuated in the last few years have all gone straight to what they call FreeFlying. But whats really funny is sometimes after seeing them do a couple hundred FF jumps and then getting to do a FreeFly jump with them, I have found that they cant even hold a head down and mostly just start with a head down on the beginning of the jump and cork, then just go into a sit for the rest of the skydive...... What they need to get better is coaching from a FreeFlyer to become one..... With being in the sport long before it was called FreeFlying, it was just called having alot of fun and going REALLY F**KING FAST Just my .02 Nailed it. OH YEAH, NAILED IT. BRAVO. Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #58 January 16, 2004 QuoteIf you go out to the dz wearing a baggy freefly suit, have hair color other than your natural tone (like purple), listen to techno like it's religion, have lots of tattoos and/or piercings, never dirt dive, never plan the exit till 10 grand, and say "DUDE THAT WAS AWESOME" if you just hovered in front of them for 9000 ft, then you're a freeflyer. Not fair there. I don't consider myself a freeflyer and I do a bunch of those things and some you didn't list.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamsville 0 #59 January 16, 2004 I kind of agree. This thread has been worked over pretty hard. |I don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane. Harry, FB #4143 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GARYC24 3 #60 January 16, 2004 Anyone who manifest doing anything other than RW ,CRW load or student load. Or sometimes a flat and stable solo, oh and a board,too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #61 January 16, 2004 Being free from classifications such as this. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #62 January 17, 2004 Quoterw-flyers got the rw-suits and free flyers got their cool outfits..Ahem... Are you suggesting that grippers aren't the coolest part of a suit? I think of "freeflying" as a discipline. There is a lot to learn in any discipline of skydiving. You shouldn't pick nits about what you call someone based on what stage of the learning process they're in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingILweenie 0 #63 January 18, 2004 what makes one a freeflyer?....wearing a camera...DUH!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #64 January 18, 2004 QuoteQuoteI'd say you're a freeflyer, but in these cases you aren't necessarily more "free" than the rw'er. All I'm trying to say. It's 1 position vs multiple positions Ive never seen an RW guy do a flip or cartwheel in his/her routine, but I have seen plenty of freeflyers do them while staying in a sit the whole dive. You haven't been around long, then. Backflips as part of RW transitions go back to the '70s. Don't see them in "official" competitions any more, but we had them in a 10-way scrambles last fall.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #65 January 18, 2004 QuoteThen by your definition, Majik, Airspeed, and GK are freeflyers. I've seen Airspeed do a very nifty 10-way knee-fly routine.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vertifly 0 #66 January 18, 2004 This is the last time I'm going to post to this thread because I think that the majority of responses here are baseless. So here it goes: Wake up and smell the coffee, people. Just get out there and do what you love to do best - FLY!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skr 1 #67 January 22, 2004 To me freedom is not a body position. It's an attitude. Skr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #68 January 22, 2004 QuoteWake up and smell the coffee, people. Just get out there and do what you love to do best - FLY!!! I agree, Lets all let this thread die like is should....=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #69 January 22, 2004 It was dead for three days. You two brought it back.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #70 January 22, 2004 QuoteIt was dead for three days. You two brought it back. Now you just brought the dumb thing back! It was working it's way down the Threads on it's way to the grave!!!=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #71 January 22, 2004 Well stop posting then.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #72 January 22, 2004 QuoteWell stop posting then.You firstMy grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #73 January 22, 2004 No you! I am not a quitter!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
