The worst-case scenario survival handbook

[elfanie 0]

Alright (Ivan)...I searched and didn't see this posted anywhere...so I'm going to go ahead and type it in.


I just got The Worst-Case Scenario Survival Handbook used at a bookstore...and one of the topics is "How to survive if your parachute fails to open".
This should probably go into "talk back" since it's humerous....but I do believe they are being quite serious. this is quoted...no comments added by myself.


HOW TO SURVIVE IF YOUR PARACHUTE FAILS TO OPEN

1. As soon as you realize that your chute is bad, signal to a jumping companion whose chute has not yet opened that you are having a malfunction.
Wave your arms and point to your chute.

2. When your companion (and new best friend) gets to you, hook arms.


3. Once you are hooked together, the two of you will still be falling at terminal velocity, or about 130 miles per hour.
When your friend opens his chute, there will be no way either of you will be able to hold on to one another normally, because the G-forces will triple or quadruple your body weight. to prepare for this problem, hook your arms into his chest strap or through the two sides of the front of his harness, all the way up to your elbows, and grab hold of your own strap.

4. Open the chute.
The chute opening shock will be severe, probably enough to dislocate or break your arms.

5. Steer the canopy.
Your friend must now hold on to you with one arm while steering his canopy (the part of the chute that controls direction and speed).
If your friend's canopy is slow and big, you may hit the grass or dirt slowly enough to break only a leg, and your chances of survival are high.
If his canopy is a fast one, however, your friend will have to steer to avoid hitting the ground too fast. You must also avoid power lines and other obstrictions at all costs.

6. If there is a body of water nearby, head for that.
Of course, once you hit the water, you will have to tread with only your legs and hope your partner is able to pull you out before your chute takes in water.

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Elfanie
My Skydiving Page
Fly Safe - Soft Landings

[jsaxton 0]

I wonder why these guys won't fork over the $1000/day for a technical advisor? Seems to be endemic in the entertainment industry.

[FallingILweenie 0]

bwaaaaaaaaahahahahhaha!!!

[PhreeZone 20]

Look at the contributer of this information. Joe Jennings. Reconize the name?

And it has been posted a few times

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[elfanie 0]

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Look at the contributer of this information. Joe Jennings. Reconize the name?

actually...if you mean the author of the book, the author is Joshua Piven and David Borgenicht...

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And it has been posted a few times

Drat. And I searched...really I did.

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Elfanie
My Skydiving Page
Fly Safe - Soft Landings

[FrogNog 1]

Elfanie, can you find any note of Joe Jennings being the contributor of this info to this book?

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Pull.

[goose491 0]

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And it has been posted a few times

Drat. And I searched...really I did.

[goose491 0]

Jokes!

I suggest that we all agree to automatically use this as a response when whuffoes ask "What happens if your chute doesn't open?"

My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

[billvon 3,049]

>My favorite part is how the pilot of the working chute has to hold you
> with one hand... and steer with the other. (maybe he's got a toggle
>in his mouth?)

You hold both toggles in one hand. I have a friend who had to land like that due to a dislocated shoulder.

>Firstly: Who happens to be that close to me at pull time? Didn't I
>track away? And by the time I've experience a double mal, aren't all
> my buddies sitting pretty in the saddle?)

I've often noticed something "not right" with another jumper and followed them at breakoff. On one occasion I had to open their reserve because they went unstable, flipped on their backs and did not pull. (I knew she was planning to pull at around 3000 and seemed to have no intention to do so as she passed through that altitude.)

But I doubt that I could hold on to someone if I tried that and they had a reserve total.

[elfanie 0]

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Elfanie, can you find any note of Joe Jennings being the contributor of this info to this book?

Nope...
I just looked through the book.

Authors Joshua Piven and David Borgenicht
forward by "Mountain" Mel Deweese

No mention of a Joe Jennings anywhere that I can find.

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Elfanie
My Skydiving Page
Fly Safe - Soft Landings

[goose491 0]

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I've often noticed something "not right" with another jumper and followed them at breakoff. On one occasion I had to open their reserve because they went unstable, flipped on their backs and did not pull. (I knew she was planning to pull at around 3000 and seemed to have no intention to do so as she passed through that altitude.)

Noice! You should post to that "If you had two lives... " thread.
You've obviously got more than one as somebody (maybe/probably more) owes you theirs

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But I doubt that I could hold on to someone if I tried that and they had a reserve total.

Yeah, that's why you feed your pilot-chute and d-bag through their chestrap instead... then let it go!

Didn't somebody do that once and end up killing the one they were tryin' to save?

Hypothetically, I still think that would be the only way.

Nick

My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

[gulaz 1]

The contributions are all in the back somewhere... I have a copy, but i havent read that part since before I started skydiving. I will look, and see who it is, if I can find it.

Edit: http://www.worstcasescenarios.com/scenario.htm?scenarioid=8

[elfanie 0]

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I've often noticed something "not right" with another jumper and followed them at breakoff. On one occasion I had to open their reserve because they went unstable, flipped on their backs and did not pull. (I knew she was planning to pull at around 3000 and seemed to have no intention to do so as she passed through that altitude.)

So...below 3K you noticed she wasn't pulling...you tracked over to her and were able to deploy her reserve before deploying your own chute and landing?

Yeesh. I bow to you for that...wow. I'm...even more impressed than I already was.

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Elfanie
My Skydiving Page
Fly Safe - Soft Landings

[elfanie 0]

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The contributions are all in the back somewhere... I have a copy, but i havent read that part since before I started skydiving. I will look, and see who it is, if I can find it.

OH YES!!! Now I found it...
I'm sorry...my mistake. Yes...right here...here it is...you're right, Joe Jennings. *nodsnods* You're absolutely right.

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Elfanie
My Skydiving Page
Fly Safe - Soft Landings

[TomAiello 26]

You might also read "how to jump from a bridge into water" in the same book.

A few years ago, I had a nasty accident (pulled too low on a BASE jump from a bridge, over water) in September or so, and ended up in the hospital for about two months.

I got three copies of the "Worst Case Scenario" book for Christmas that year. They all had both of those sections marked.

-- Tom Aiello

Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
SnakeRiverBASE.com

[billvon 3,049]

>So...below 3K you noticed she wasn't pulling...you tracked over to her
> and were able to deploy her reserve before deploying your own
> chute and landing?

I first noticed something awry at 6000 feet where she went into this screaming backslide. I followed her just so we'd all be in the same part of the sky at breakoff. As I followed her it got worse and worse; she tried to pull, flipped on her back, tried again and just gave up. Then she started to spin. I docked on her, tried to stop the spin, ran out of time (we were at 3000 feet at that point) so I just opened her reserve.

Whole story is here

[Nightingale 0]

did they ever find out what was wrong with her, if anything? medical issue?

[PhreeZone 20]

The look on your face as you came back to the tent with your main on your sholder and a ripcord in your hand was a combo of amazement and humor. Nice job on the save Bill!

Once again... beer is on me when ever we are at the same DZ!

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And tomorrow is a mystery

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[flyangel2 2]

Bill, don't you think the fingernails on that gal were a dead give away as to what she thought was important in her life? Not to mention all the jewelry she was wearing.

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