flyinghonu 0 #1 December 16, 2003 I've decided to skip the Tandem 2 and go into my AFF training immediately. I have two questions: 1) What if it is longer than 30 days between my AFF 1 and my AFF 2 - will I have to repeat AFF 1 again? 2) Should I have it videoed? (honestly need to know if it is a good training tool, as I am very tight on $$$ and have a not so supportive hubby on the whole thing). "Excuse me while I kiss the sky..." - Jimi Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StearmanR985 0 #2 December 16, 2003 I am just off student status. Video was quite helpful for me. When I described to my JM what I was feeling regarding stability and turns we watched the video. Seeing myself helped me tremendously with my arch (specifically relaxing into an arch) and leg awareness for the next jump. Plus, my family enjoyed watching my progression on tape. Good luck and ENJOY your AFF!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panzwami 0 #3 December 16, 2003 It depends on how good a student you are and how long past 30 days you go. There's not a hard and fast rule about it, but rather it will be up to your instructor to evaluate you as a student and determine what the best course of action should be. When I was on AFF, I went six weeks between AFFII and III, but it was due to bad weather. We talked for a while and he was comfortable that I still retained all the important bits of knowledge, so I went on to level III without doing anything over. Matt ----- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 December 16, 2003 It is more economical to save up and have a "war chest" so that you can go through your AFF training quickly. $2000 would not be unreasonable to have just sitting in the bank. Makes things a lot less stressful too. If you let a lot of time lapse between levels, you'll lose some of the muscle memory required to perform as well as you're capable of performing. You'll also have a tendancy to forget a couple of items and need a bit of retraining. Video is extremely valuable as far as a training tool and to a lesser extent for sentimental reasons later. If you were going to try to stretch your budget you could skip video on some levels, but for certain you want it on your first and fourth. Skydiving gets considerably less expensive after you've accomplished the AFF jumps.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyyhi 0 #5 December 16, 2003 If money is an issue for not getting the video, I would wait until your 2nd AFF to get the video. My reasoning behind that is the 1st AFF is just about getting the feel for freefall and getting to land your own canopy. The 2nd AFF is a similar jump but the JM's are much more critical of body position and you do turns on #2. The video also costs less because it is not a first jump video - it is simply a training video. . . And I think you have to do your AFF 2 within 30 days. . .but you should check with your DZ for verification.________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #6 December 16, 2003 if $ is tight, just have a friend on the ground video your landing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StearmanR985 0 #7 December 16, 2003 QuoteSkydiving gets considerably less expensive after you've accomplished the AFF jumps. Depends on how addicted you become!!! I am finding my checking account is even worse off now that I graduated..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyyhi 0 #8 December 16, 2003 Quoteif $ is tight, just have a friend on the ground video your landing Chris, I have found having a friend video my landings to be an EXTREMELY helpful training tool. Seeing what I was doing as I approached the ground helped me to realign my body position and ultimately result in a better flare and softer (if not quite stand-up) landing.________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #9 December 16, 2003 Quote 1) What if it is longer than 30 days between my AFF 1 and my AFF 2 - will I have to repeat AFF 1 again? You will probably have to undergo a "short re-train" or review what was covered in the FJC and definitely review emergency procedures in the training harness. If you successfully completed Level 1/Cat. A, you should be able to go directly to Level 2/Cat. B. Quote 2) Should I have it videoed? (honestly need to know if it is a good training tool, as I am very tight on $$$ and have a not so supportive hubby on the whole thing). If you can afford it, yes. There are video options that you get get for training purposes. I did this as an AFF student and it helped me out. Sometimes we are not aware of our body position or even remember the skydive. Debriefing with a video is a great tool, and just may save you some money in the event you have to repeat a level. You should also consider some tunnel time as part of your training. We have a new program at Skydive Elsinore that incorporates 5 minutes tunnel training after your Level 2 skydive, but before your Level 3, the release skydive. Upon successful completion of L3, you go directly to Level 5. This would, in effect, give you ~ 8 minutes of "freefall" versus, less than 4 minutes without the tunnel option, while approximately the same cost of the Level 4. Just something to consider. Shark AFF-I Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinghonu 0 #10 December 16, 2003 *** You should also consider some tunnel time as part of your training. We have a new program at Skydive Elsinore that incorporates 5 minutes tunnel training after your Level 2 skydive, but before your Level 3, the release skydive. Quote Well that brings up another thought? Can you take AFF training at different DZs? San Diego is definitely most convenient for me but I am not opposed to go up to Elsinore. "Excuse me while I kiss the sky..." - Jimi Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shark 0 #11 December 16, 2003 Quote*** You should also consider some tunnel time as part of your training. We have a new program at Skydive Elsinore that incorporates 5 minutes tunnel training after your Level 2 skydive, but before your Level 3, the release skydive. Quote Well that brings up another thought? Can you take AFF training at different DZs? San Diego is definitely most convenient for me but I am not opposed to go up to Elsinore. All 3 offer AFF and are good DZs. It helps to go visit the others, though. You may be more comfortable at one, or the other. It's all good! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ltdiver 3 #12 December 17, 2003 QuoteSkydiving gets considerably less expensive after you've accomplished the AFF jumps. Yeah, right! When was the last time you made just one jump on a weekend? ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #13 December 17, 2003 Quote Skydiving gets considerably less expensive after you've accomplished the AFF jumps. This, of course, would be on a per jump basis.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ltdiver 3 #14 December 17, 2003 QuoteQuote Skydiving gets considerably less expensive after you've accomplished the AFF jumps. This, of course, would be on a per jump basis. Very true. Yet, we've all known people who have spent in excess of $30k in just one season of competitive training. So, the other spectrum has to be considered as well. What's the adage: Spend 50% of your income for the rest of your life (on skydiving)... ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shark 0 #15 December 17, 2003 The cheap seats are always at the back of the airplane; 767 or Twin Otter. So, AFF'ers are flying 1st Class. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bradcurn 0 #16 December 17, 2003 I just finished my AFF recently and I did not have video. I suppose having video would have been an advantage in terms of actually being able to see the stuff that my instructors were telling me about in the debrief. With that said however I found that the most important thing for me was spending enough time visualising and practising on the ground. So if money really is a critical factor, I think that you can be successful at AFF without the video option. Whatever you decide, enjoy AFF. It is a great experience, you are going to learn superfast and have a wonderful time. Cheers Bradley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
Shark 0 #11 December 16, 2003 Quote*** You should also consider some tunnel time as part of your training. We have a new program at Skydive Elsinore that incorporates 5 minutes tunnel training after your Level 2 skydive, but before your Level 3, the release skydive. Quote Well that brings up another thought? Can you take AFF training at different DZs? San Diego is definitely most convenient for me but I am not opposed to go up to Elsinore. All 3 offer AFF and are good DZs. It helps to go visit the others, though. You may be more comfortable at one, or the other. It's all good! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ltdiver 3 #12 December 17, 2003 QuoteSkydiving gets considerably less expensive after you've accomplished the AFF jumps. Yeah, right! When was the last time you made just one jump on a weekend? ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #13 December 17, 2003 Quote Skydiving gets considerably less expensive after you've accomplished the AFF jumps. This, of course, would be on a per jump basis.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ltdiver 3 #14 December 17, 2003 QuoteQuote Skydiving gets considerably less expensive after you've accomplished the AFF jumps. This, of course, would be on a per jump basis. Very true. Yet, we've all known people who have spent in excess of $30k in just one season of competitive training. So, the other spectrum has to be considered as well. What's the adage: Spend 50% of your income for the rest of your life (on skydiving)... ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shark 0 #15 December 17, 2003 The cheap seats are always at the back of the airplane; 767 or Twin Otter. So, AFF'ers are flying 1st Class. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bradcurn 0 #16 December 17, 2003 I just finished my AFF recently and I did not have video. I suppose having video would have been an advantage in terms of actually being able to see the stuff that my instructors were telling me about in the debrief. With that said however I found that the most important thing for me was spending enough time visualising and practising on the ground. So if money really is a critical factor, I think that you can be successful at AFF without the video option. Whatever you decide, enjoy AFF. It is a great experience, you are going to learn superfast and have a wonderful time. Cheers Bradley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
ltdiver 3 #12 December 17, 2003 QuoteSkydiving gets considerably less expensive after you've accomplished the AFF jumps. Yeah, right! When was the last time you made just one jump on a weekend? ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #13 December 17, 2003 Quote Skydiving gets considerably less expensive after you've accomplished the AFF jumps. This, of course, would be on a per jump basis.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #14 December 17, 2003 QuoteQuote Skydiving gets considerably less expensive after you've accomplished the AFF jumps. This, of course, would be on a per jump basis. Very true. Yet, we've all known people who have spent in excess of $30k in just one season of competitive training. So, the other spectrum has to be considered as well. What's the adage: Spend 50% of your income for the rest of your life (on skydiving)... ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #15 December 17, 2003 The cheap seats are always at the back of the airplane; 767 or Twin Otter. So, AFF'ers are flying 1st Class. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bradcurn 0 #16 December 17, 2003 I just finished my AFF recently and I did not have video. I suppose having video would have been an advantage in terms of actually being able to see the stuff that my instructors were telling me about in the debrief. With that said however I found that the most important thing for me was spending enough time visualising and practising on the ground. So if money really is a critical factor, I think that you can be successful at AFF without the video option. Whatever you decide, enjoy AFF. It is a great experience, you are going to learn superfast and have a wonderful time. Cheers Bradley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
