elfanie 0 #1 November 11, 2003 Background: I'm a newbie, ASP graduate with 18 jumps on self-supervision. I've always had stable exits....except for my first solo exit which was a rear-diving exit. (kept legs too positive, caught wind, flipped me onto my back, immediately I flipped myself back to belly-down and continued with my jump. See the video of the jump here under "graduation jump video"... My Skydiving Site ) Anyways, of the jumps I did this past weekend I did two non-solo jumps...one was a "coach" type jump (with a friend of mine) to practice docking. On that exit, there was some sort of miscommunication, I did a poised side-exit where he was expecting me to do a backwards facing-him exit. he had my chest strap...so he ended up flipping me onto my back. I did the only thing I know to do...which is I arched. He let go of me, I flipped myself belly-down, and we did the jump. (see the video of that jump at the same page listed above, only this one is under "Jump #16"). Ok...so now I'm going to do a 3-way, first ever. Exit SUCKED. Plan was to get into a circle, accordian on me, circle, accordian on V, circle, accordian on R, circle, break off, track, pull. Get into position to exit...ready, set, exit... and we were all over the place. I'm holding onto V who's holding onto R who's holding onto me. Felt like we were potato chipping and started bouncing around a bit...I'm holding onto that grip for dear life. I felt R break off so I released V and got stable. IMMEDIATELY when we released, V dropped like a stone. I fall slowly so I spent the rest of the jump trying to dive-n-track to get down to their level and never did make it. I asked them what went wrong..V claimed it was his exit and he didn't turn enough into the relative wind....but it brought up a lot of questions in my mind. First, I have a lot more respect when looking at those 15-30-50 ways pictures! But the question that I have is...is ther a secret to the group exits? All I did was get into position, step back and ARCH. What do you do if you're in a group linked jump and you find yourself flipped over underneith other members or if you're unstable...how do you, while linked to others, regain stability? Is there a trick? Any hint/tips is very appreciated...I'm just so new and absorbing everything I can from the most experienced. After two not-terrific exits with others, I'd like to learn how to have good exits for future group jumps. Elfanie -------------------------------------------- Elfanie My Skydiving Page Fly Safe - Soft Landings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #2 November 11, 2003 The best thing to do in my oppinion is to get a few more jumps and then start working with an organizer. At my DZ there are different levels of organized loads. As you learn more and more you "graduate" to the next level. I did most of my first 200 jumps with a particular organizer, and still occasionally jump with him. As you and the people at your level gain more experience, you will look for larger or more challenging things to do, but it will only come with experience. Relax, you have plenty of time.Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #3 November 11, 2003 >But the question that I have is...is ther a secret to the group exits? Hundreds! But the three basics are construction, timing and presentation. It has to be a solidly designed exit, the timing has to be right (hard to do) and everyone has to present the instant they are in the wind. >What do you do if you're in a group linked jump and you find > yourself flipped over underneith other members or if you're > unstable...how do you, while linked to others, regain stability? Generally you don't. The trick is to never go unstable in the first place. Make sure you are flying as soon as your body hits the wind. The term "exit and get stable" makes no sense when applied to RW exits - be stable _on_ exit. Beyond that, it's going to be hard to explain over the net how to do it. A coach or experienced RW person is going to be the best person to show you how to do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brains 2 #4 November 11, 2003 The only thing i could add to what bill said is practice the same exit with the same people over and over again. That is where the timing and presentation come into play. Oh yeah, and have fun Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
