peachsouthern 0 #1 September 30, 2003 Hi all, Ok so I just graduated AFF 2 weeks ago and of course can't wait to get my A now. Just need a good weekend! Anyways as far as with coach jumps, what is proper etiquette as far as tipping your coach? "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." - Albert Einstein Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #2 September 30, 2003 QuoteAnyways as far as with coach jumps, what is proper etiquette as far as tipping your coach? Its not usually needed if you are paying them. You still can, and I have gotten as much as a 100.00 tip for a few coach jumps before. However, if you are just buying their slot, or the DZ is, or even they are...a couple of bucks is ok, but I would rather you hang out after the props stop and buy a few beers. If they are paying you could always give them a jump ticket or two.... Its time to stop being a student and start being one of the group...You do that by hanging out and buying some drinks. Hanging out is one of the biggest ways to be in this sport..The time you spend actually jumping is small. But the time you spend with these people is quite a lot. If you comeout, do your jumps, never learn to pack, never hangout you will never realy be "in"."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #3 September 30, 2003 If you tip in beer, everybody is happy at the end of the day...and you also give beer for firsts, successes, fuckups, new gear, new friends, licences and so on.. In short...every muscle you move, or every thought you'll ever concider having will cost you beer...you'll have plenty of friends that way...heheJC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peachsouthern 0 #4 September 30, 2003 Beer def. does wonders!!! I think that was the greatest feeling after getting off student status! I brought the typical case to the DZ and it was like they weren't my instructors anymore, but friends! We all went out afterwards and just bs'ed about the days jumps. I learned more that night listening to others talk. It def has to be one of the greatest feelings!! Thanks for all the suggestions! "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." - Albert Einstein Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #5 September 30, 2003 Tipping tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #6 September 30, 2003 Enjoy your progress as you work towards your A... Tipping with money,, is thoughtful,, but really not needed...As ron points out spending time before and after your jumps, with those who are your coaches and instructors,, accomplishes many things... It shows you are appreciative ( and thats a nice gratuity ) and it allows YOU to listen and learn,, ask and get answers, and generally grow,,,, in your skydiving endeavors.......As for celebrating and beer this and beer that,,,,all well and good.... and many a fine laugh and good time have been had with friends, new and old, around a dropzone fireside.... Find a level of that part of our sport with which you are comfortable and enjoy..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #7 September 30, 2003 Sunday, these two Americans phoned up after being refused by an American DZ. I took one look at the bigger guy and decided that his 240 pounds was reasonable, so we did a tandem jump together. Then I repeated the process with his smaller buddy. Both of them bought video. They both enjoyed their tandem jumps so much that they repeated the process Sunday afternoon. They left a $200 tip for me at manifest! That's a bit bigger tip than I am used to. Europeans and Japanese normally leave $20 tips. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ifics 0 #8 September 30, 2003 Oh man, I am so broke from all of this that I could not afford to tip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #9 September 30, 2003 Ron has a good point. Hang out at the dz after hours and buy your instructor a beer. The instructor gets a free beer and you get an excellent opportunity to learn more. It is surprising how much information is learned from casual conversations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonSanta 0 #10 September 30, 2003 Agreed Happythoughts. I'd suggest that beer is just a medium for learning. so the more we drink, the more we must have learned, aye? I like that kinda reasoning. Santa Von GrossenArsch I only come in one flavour ohwaitthatcanbemisunderst Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATO33 0 #11 October 1, 2003 QuoteHang out at the dz after hours and buy your instructor a beer. The instructor gets a free beer and you get an excellent opportunity to learn more. It is surprising how much information is learned from casual conversations. My wife doesn't understand this at all... she rather me come down from sunset load throw all my gear in a bag and hi-tail it home. You can learn so much after the sun has went down and the instructors aren't busy breifing debriefing LO'ing etc. Blue Skies Black Death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireflyer 0 #12 October 1, 2003 do you pay the DZ for your coach jumps or the coaches directly? we pay our DZ, and they get their slot paid plus $10. the DZ stated that tips are generally not accepted, and i have had that experience. i bought a slot for the coach that helped me learn to pack. about 80% the coaches i know that have helped me refuse anything, and are happy to jump with newbies. i always offer to by slots, and only paid for one, that one was when the coach wasnt looking. i say buying thier slot is enough, but i know everyone so well at the dz i think it would be like trying to tip a close friend - it almost puts distance in your relationship. buy em a beer or the slot... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakyflygirl 0 #13 October 1, 2003 QuoteOh man, I am so broke from all of this that I could not afford to tip. LMAO!!! Ditto here. However the JM that helped me get over a certain hurdle got a Guiness at the end of the day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Aviatrr 0 #14 October 1, 2003 Quoteabout 80% the coaches i know that have helped me refuse anything, and are happy to jump with newbies. i always offer to by slots, and only paid for one, that one was when the coach wasnt looking. AS IT SHOULD BE! The experienced skydivers are no longer "allowed" to jump with the newbies until after they finish their A card unless they have a "Coach" rating. It's total bullshit, IMO. When I learned, I was "coached" by going on jumps with groups of much more experienced skydivers(sometimes just one other person, usually a few at least). These were jumpers that had at least hundreds, usually thousands of jumps and always welcomed the newbies on the load. They didn't care if we turned any points or not. Quotei say buying thier slot is enough, but i know everyone so well at the dz i think it would be like trying to tip a close friend - it almost puts distance in your relationship. buy em a beer or the slot... Beer sounds good to me. I guess I need to get my "Coach" rating in order to be allowed to jump with the newbies again. Pretty pathetic, IMO. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chuckakers 426 #15 October 4, 2003 we'll forgive you for being new...beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites schattenjaeger 0 #16 October 4, 2003 *takes notes* "beer...beer...and when in doubt, more beer!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites McG 0 #17 October 4, 2003 Oh my, oh my... Is skydiving really this related to drinking? No wonder my wife is so pissed... Is this tipping so common that folks are not at all embarrased about it? I would prefer some favors instead (if one really feels being in dept) like bringing a cup of coffee, helping with other newbies later on, being nice or doing some sexual favors... oops... sorry, i really did not mean that...>If God meant for man to fly, He´d have given him much more money. McG, DZ EFVA dictator Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Aviatrr 0 #14 October 1, 2003 Quoteabout 80% the coaches i know that have helped me refuse anything, and are happy to jump with newbies. i always offer to by slots, and only paid for one, that one was when the coach wasnt looking. AS IT SHOULD BE! The experienced skydivers are no longer "allowed" to jump with the newbies until after they finish their A card unless they have a "Coach" rating. It's total bullshit, IMO. When I learned, I was "coached" by going on jumps with groups of much more experienced skydivers(sometimes just one other person, usually a few at least). These were jumpers that had at least hundreds, usually thousands of jumps and always welcomed the newbies on the load. They didn't care if we turned any points or not. Quotei say buying thier slot is enough, but i know everyone so well at the dz i think it would be like trying to tip a close friend - it almost puts distance in your relationship. buy em a beer or the slot... Beer sounds good to me. I guess I need to get my "Coach" rating in order to be allowed to jump with the newbies again. Pretty pathetic, IMO. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 426 #15 October 4, 2003 we'll forgive you for being new...beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schattenjaeger 0 #16 October 4, 2003 *takes notes* "beer...beer...and when in doubt, more beer!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McG 0 #17 October 4, 2003 Oh my, oh my... Is skydiving really this related to drinking? No wonder my wife is so pissed... Is this tipping so common that folks are not at all embarrased about it? I would prefer some favors instead (if one really feels being in dept) like bringing a cup of coffee, helping with other newbies later on, being nice or doing some sexual favors... oops... sorry, i really did not mean that...>If God meant for man to fly, He´d have given him much more money. McG, DZ EFVA dictator Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
