RevJim 0 #26 May 2, 2003 And then you get those that had 2 digit jump numbers, and were honest about it. Still included, but not expected to be able to perform up to others standards. The beauty of organized loads and understanding LO's.It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Islandcool 0 #27 May 2, 2003 Quotemany people I know from local DZ's, have exagerated their jump numbers.. WHY ?????? In an ego driven sport guess what you'll find? Yep ego. We see it all the time. How many times have you seen the Bytch explain to people over and over that the may not be ready for a higher wingloading. I do find it difficult with the injuries and incidents that take place that people still think they can push the envelope before they are ready. Ego is what drives a lot of it. I can only assume that is drives people to to bump their numbers up. Ed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeat10500 12 #28 May 2, 2003 Raeforite Sorry I may not have been clear. He told them he had 90 jumps , really he has over 2000. ...mike ----------------------------------- Mike Wheadon B-3715,HEMP#1 Higher Expectations for Modern Parachutists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #29 May 3, 2003 Quote... I personally know quite a few people who pad the hell out of their log books ... I'm astonished. I've been jumping 30 years and have never seen nor heard a serious allegation of it. Am I naive or do you jumps with mutants? Just who do you hang out with? My logbooks are precious to me, and I can't imagine making up something to put in them, let alone inventing jumps I never did. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickDraw 0 #30 May 3, 2003 Hmm...i hope you didn't think i padded mine out. -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelflying 0 #31 September 11, 2003 Always be accurate or rather under cut yourself then over estimate I recon you are only lying to yourself.www.skydivekzn.co.za Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaaska 0 #32 September 11, 2003 QuoteRaeforite Sorry I may not have been clear. He told them he had 90 jumps , really he has over 2000. ...mike Yes, but if he's claiming that he's got only 90 jumps, the coach/instr. may and should be worried if the guy, claiming to have 90 jumps, jumps with 79sqrf elliptical canopy... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelflying 0 #33 September 11, 2003 some confused campers live on this planetwww.skydivekzn.co.za Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pawl 0 #34 September 11, 2003 OK, I started this whole thread and it seems that my original statment seems to have been misconstrued. My comment was directed at the jump numbers posted in their profiles, not what they actually have recorded in their log books. I'm sure if checked, the two would differ ! Hmm..does that make sense now ??"Africa is not for sissies" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phonics1981 0 #35 September 11, 2003 I'm personally not in this sport to impress anyone. I'm in it for me I love it, its fun and I want to learn as much as possible and progress on my own merits. If I impress on the way then thats a bonus. People who lie about jump numbers aer only lying to themselves. And its a bit sad. ------------------------------------------------------ "Ive given up on sigs cos I make a mess of them!" ------------------------------------------------------ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #36 September 11, 2003 I log every jump, and intend to keep doing so as long as I jump. Although I do tend to go more towards describing the views/feelings/emotions that came with a jump instead of only writing down what I did...it's like a diary...JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #37 September 11, 2003 I don't see any constructive benefit to doing this. You will be witness to many relationships in these forums that stem from honesty and integrity, some of which are between people who have never met in person or even talked on the phone. They flourish because honesty and integrity are strong building blocks from which to start any kind of relationship. Any relationship build on dishonesty (e.g. padding jump numbers one's profile) is bound to have difficulties from the start. I am a firm believer that I am not my jump numbers. They provide only a very generic measuring stick for my abilities and credibility as a skydiver. However, I freely choose to share my numbers and to keep them accurate. That is simply my way of doing things, and always has been. My close friendships in skydiving have less to do with a person's numbers or ability, they have more to do with the kind of person they are, which is often reflected in their skydiving as well. If you are purposely misleading others in these forums by padding the jump numbers in your profile, ask yourself if compromising your own integrity as well as that of these forums really serves you or the people around you? Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mazevedo 0 #38 September 11, 2003 I have only 56 jumps and I am very proud of it. And I would be embarassed if I post something that I was supose to know with plenty of jumps. We are here to learn with experienced people, why the fu... lie? Everybody who jump from a perfect airplane, even tandem jumps, had alrealdy proved for themselves they can do it. See u down the hill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #39 September 11, 2003 Ya know...I have a few jumps...but I still suck at RW. Why? Because most of my jumps are in a different discipline and the only time I am really banana flying is at pull time or wingsuit jumps. Ya can't just go by jump numbers alone. I have seen folks that have 500 jumps from smaller DZ's that don't fly as well as someone with 200 jumps from a larger DZ. This is due to the opportunities that these folks have. Maybe its in coaching services, maybe its currency. Do I log every jump? Yes! As tedious as it is sometimes, I still log them. I was one of those that had "not enough" listed in my profile, and this still is a true statement. You never stop learning. If you think you know all there is to know...you become dangerous. If one is padding their numbers they are only foolin' themselves. Its akin to cheating on a test. But hey what do I know? I'm a member of the under 5,000 club Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #40 September 11, 2003 QuoteDo I log every jump? Yes! As tedious as it is sometimes, I still log them. I jump at a small DZ with a couple C-182.. but we had a Caravan all summer and for one more week. I did not log for a while back in my 20's in the 1970's... so according to SOME... I cant prove those 200 or so jumps ever existed. At the time it was like "WTF are you doing, PACK.. we have to make the next load".... and needless to say in 1979 or 1980.. they did not have the computer systems they have now. I LOG all my jumps now..I do not even know where my old log books are. Big DZ.. small DZ.. I like jumping...I am approaching 600 jumps...but only have about 380 logged.. do I fly like I am a newbie... uh..I dont think so the more people in the sky at the same time.. the happier I am..Since I came back to jumping in March of this year I have about 150 jumps. MOST of those jumps are 13k.. I hate doing hop and pops.. I for one do not want to get to 5000 jumps and have 4500 of them be hop and pops out of a Cessna..that is just me.. others.. may want that and in Seattle its real easy to have a LOT of jumps and still not be a good freeflyer or bellyflyer..... but I would hope that the people who do so many hop and pops are rockin canopy pilots. Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelflying 0 #41 September 11, 2003 just found your post and revived it I agree people try impress people they think they won't meetwww.skydivekzn.co.za Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skream 0 #42 September 11, 2003 Heck, I was proud to update my profile to '4' jumps.--- Michael Teator Lexington, Kentucky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #43 September 11, 2003 Quotedo I fly like I am a newbie Well I have to say that I do! Given the environment in which I currently live with many that have upward of 10,000 jumps each, I am and forever shall be...a newbie! Isn't learning fun? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #44 September 11, 2003 I'm one of those people that has not logged many jumps. I fly for a living, and I have to be very meticulous with my logbook.....and after many years of that, I got tired of it. I don't have to keep a logbook for skydiving(or scuba diving), so I am not worried about it if I don't update it regularly. I do update it occasionally, mostly just to show currency if they ask at a new DZ. I honestly couldn't tell you exactly how many jumps I have. I could probably guesstimate within about 100 jumps, but I sure couldn't give you an exact number. I'm really bad about logbooks - but I HAVE TO keep my pilot logbooks current, I don't have to keep the others current.........so, on that case, I plead lazy. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #45 September 11, 2003 QuoteGiven the environment in which I currently live with many that have upward of 10,000 jumps each, I am and forever shall be...a newbie! Isn't learning fun? OUCH.... ok.. lets word that differently... I will always be learning.. BUT I can fly the shit out of my body.. with only a few jumps comp[ared to those people.... Airspeed etc.. I would just piss em off flailing all over the sky...That is one of the reasons I say all the time I do not do 4 way.. I get dizzy turning points Its all relative.... but I have jumped with people who have a couple thousand jumps.. and fly worse than I do. Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #46 September 11, 2003 QuoteOUCH.... ok.. lets word that differently... I will always be learning Sorry doll! Didn't mean it as an affont! I was merely reflecting on my own experience. QuoteAirspeed etc.. I would just piss em off flailing all over the sky.. Bwahhhhhhh! Yeah and now ya know why I don't do 4-way! *giggles* QuoteIts all relative.... but I have jumped with people who have a couple thousand jumps.. and fly worse than I do. Agreed! And I still suck! But man I'm having fun! BillV has a great story that he posted a couple of years ago. AggieD and I were to have been base. AD sinks out and I am thinking wtf over? Bill literally flew me down to the formation. That was the last time I flew RW. Now hybrids...thats a different story! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harksaw 0 #47 September 11, 2003 I have heard that some people with thousands of jumps will lie and say that they only have 400 or so, so they arent under so much pressure to not screw up __________________________________________________ I started skydiving for the money and the chicks. Oh, wait. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #48 September 11, 2003 the reason people lie about anything is....they just cant live with the truth. If a jumper lies about his jump numbers, he is only fooling himself, and eventually the truth will emerge, and he'll look like the dishonest fool he really is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HRHSkyPrincess 0 #49 September 11, 2003 Folks who lie about their jump numbers put not only themselves at risk, but others who jump with them. It's disgusting and you have to wonder what else they utter with a forked tongue! "Liar liar, pants on fire"....***************** Attitude is everything! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HRHSkyPrincess 0 #50 September 11, 2003 Bravo! Great attitude. :)***************** Attitude is everything! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
