huszcza 0 #1 September 5, 2003 Hi there, How many jumps needs a beginner skydiver (girl 52kg/110lbs 60jumps) for jumping a sabre 120 ?? blue skies jacek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #2 September 5, 2003 Being in that weight range (105 lbs) I always recommend to smaller girls to not go smaller than a 135 as a 1st canopy, if and only if they were able to downsize to the 150 range as a student with an instructor coaching them. If all you jumped were 200s, then a 150 is the smallest you should go as a 1st canopy. Canopy training is the key, on 200s you don't learn anything other than point the nose into the wind, on 150s you can learn what your heavier counterparts learned on 200s. After that downsize sensibly, perferibly with canopy coaching.Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #3 September 5, 2003 There is no magic number. Skycat and I have different beliefs on small canopies for woman, but that aside this is really something that you should take up with your instructors. I know it's not the answer you're looking for, but your question should be: "What would be the next canopy for me at my current skill level" and should be posed to those at your DZ who know your flying capability. NONE of us here, who have no idea of your flying, can answer that question. Eventually you will probably be able to work down to the canopy size you desire, but it takes time and work on your part to prepare yourself for that canopy. Blue skies IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #4 September 5, 2003 >How many jumps needs a beginner skydiver (girl 52kg/110lbs >60jumps) for jumping a sabre 120 ?? You must be able to fly a larger canopy well before you downsize to that size. A typical exit weight for a 110 lb jumper is around 130 lbs; a sabre 150 (or even 135) might be a good first canopy to learn on. Once you can flat turn, flare turn, land crosswind, land on a target etc. then you're probably ready for the smaller canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #5 September 5, 2003 QuoteHi there, How many jumps needs a beginner skydiver (girl 52kg/110lbs 60jumps) for jumping a sabre 120 ?? blue skies jacek However many it takes to be able to land it (as suggested by previos experience under a 135, 150 before that, etc.) in any conditions - down wind, in a concrete parking lot, in some one's back yard, etc. While speed is essentially determined by wing loading, a parachute's control sensitivity comes mostly form size. Either can be the limit for the size below which you're more likely to have problems. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sssbc99 0 #6 September 5, 2003 The bottom line is that you should not buy something you are not sure of just because it is cheap or readily available. It is not worth an injury or always worrying about your landings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMFin 0 #7 September 7, 2003 How many jumps needs a beginner skydiver (girl 52kg/110lbs 60jumps) for jumping a sabre 120 ?? Some people might be okay at 50 jumps some people might not be okay even at 500 jumps.. Let an Instructor advise you at your DZ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aztechalo 0 #8 September 7, 2003 I understand your pain. As a once tiny student, I would be the last person down on every load and could have landed the 175-210 canopies that the DZ had to rent, without flairing, so the urge to buy my own and down size was strong. At 13 jumps I bought my own gear (with leg straps that fit!) The rig I bought had a 135 in it but once I did the math for my exit weight, I was at 135 and decided I was not the kink of flier who was ready for that. I found someone to trade with me who also had a Sabre but hers was a 150 and she was ready to downsize. After trying hers out I decided it would be more then enough canopy for me. It was faster but not dangerous, the openings were nice (even for a Sabre), and I felt safe. So take that story however you will but my recomendation is that you test fly canopies from largest to smaller. And find someone to coach you as you learn. I had someone on radio for my first 5 flights or so (then again, I was an exceptionally bad canopy pilot). Good luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huszcza 0 #9 September 10, 2003 thanks a lot for your infos. we will try a sabre 150 for the next 50 jumps and then we will see. blue skies jack Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites