Otter 0 #1 July 18, 2003 Does anyone know if a Beech 1900 would make a suitable jump plane ? I am trying to find a DZ which might have test one, but is pretty hard up to now. I would be most grateful for any comment or piece of advice.--------------- Alex / FLY4FUN Team - Curious? ready, set, CLICK! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #2 July 18, 2003 QuoteDoes anyone know if a Beech 1900 would make a suitable jump plane ? I am trying to find a DZ which might have test one, but is pretty hard up to now. I would be most grateful for any comment or piece of advice. I think the 1900 would make a decent jump plane given the right circumstances. You need two pilots though. It has a nice T tail and a big cargo door. I'm sure that some lines would need to be painted so that jumpers wouldn't overload the tail. But talking with some former and current 1900 drivers it can really take a lot of tail heaviness. It's an interesting idea. You just need a DZ that can support it or have a really good boogie circuit plan for it.Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buzzfink 5 #3 July 18, 2003 Diverdriver, What about the jump run speed on the 1900? I owned a Beech99 and I understand the new model, the 1900, is much faster. Buzz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #4 July 18, 2003 The Beech 1900 has strakes just behind the door that stick out. They look like they would present a problem for rear floaters. Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #5 July 18, 2003 QuoteThe Beech 1900 has strakes just behind the door that stick out. They look like they would present a problem for rear floaters. Hook Not all 1900s have them. edited to add: I think...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #6 July 18, 2003 Maybe the earilier models, more likely to be used for skydiving that a late model, don't have them? Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otter 0 #7 July 18, 2003 Here is the model I am inquiring about. My concern is for the mentioned strakes just behind the door. They seem to be pretty hazardous for big ways or even a solo diver. There´s a Boogie coming up in September in CHILE and the organisers have four of these 1900 (2 passengers and 2 cargo) which could be used instead of a military CASA 235. What about forward speed on exit ? How much can this plane decrease?--------------- Alex / FLY4FUN Team - Curious? ready, set, CLICK! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #8 July 18, 2003 QuoteMy concern is for the mentioned strakes just behind the door. I think if it has the strakes it wouldn't make a good jumpship. I wouldn't jump it. Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #9 July 18, 2003 Unless you can put a rail on it for "strake" floaters. Just kidding!I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otter 0 #10 July 18, 2003 that´ll do indeed ! Thank you all for your kind replies. Great forum, see ya around, Alex www.fly4fun.com.ar--------------- Alex / FLY4FUN Team - Curious? ready, set, CLICK! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #11 July 18, 2003 QuoteQuoteMy concern is for the mentioned strakes just behind the door. I think if it has the strakes it wouldn't make a good jumpship. I wouldn't jump it. Hook No strakes! http://www.airliners.net/open.file/381814/M/ Just a centerline fin. I knew they didn't all have them. edit: and another one http://www.airliners.net/open.file/244750/M/Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #12 July 18, 2003 But it still has the horizontal fins that are the problem. They look like mini-elevators. Do they move? Could the one on the left by the door be removed? Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #13 July 18, 2003 Oh...so I show you up on the strakes so now it's the horizontal. Yah, it's probably close. But I'm thinking that I also saw one that didn't have that horizontal on it. I haven't found a picture of that though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #14 July 18, 2003 QuoteOh...so I show you up on the strakes so now it's the horizontal. Did you expect otherwise? Once you find a 1900 w/o the little horizontals, then I'll ask if the little vertical fins on the stabilizer are a problem. Maybe a 1900A? Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #15 July 18, 2003 QuoteQuoteOh...so I show you up on the strakes so now it's the horizontal. Did you expect otherwise? Once you find a 1900 w/o the little horizontals, then I'll ask if the little vertical fins on the stabilizer are a problem. Maybe a 1900A? Hook Ok...after looking through airliners.net I can't find a pic without the horizontal there. No, I don't think it moves and I don't think it can be removed. But, is it closer to the door than the king air horizontal is now? You jump those don't you?Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #16 July 18, 2003 QuoteOk...after looking through airliners.net I can't find a pic without the horizontal there. I was looking through it too and couldn't find one either. I did find this tidbit though " The Beech 1900 is a pressurized version of the Model 99 and first flew in 1982. Both the 99 and 1900 are based on the popular Beech King Air and Queen Air light executive aircraft." QuoteBut, is it closer to the door than the king air horizontal is now? Closer and lower, I think. Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #17 July 18, 2003 I think only the 1900D has the strakes. edit: eh, maybe not. shame they didn't design the thing right the first time so they didnt have to add all that crap. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #18 July 18, 2003 QuoteI think only the 1900D has the strakes. Not even sure what to call them, but do any of the 1900 models not have the little horizontal 'fins' on the aft fuselage? The strakes don't seem to be a big problem, as much as the little 'fins'. Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #19 July 18, 2003 I had thought that the old ones didn't have those but I can't find any pics either so I must be wrong. I flew on a C model once I think. Neat little plane No standup headroom though, especially near the tail. The D model has a higher ceiling so passengers can stand up straight. Edit: ok, i looked it up. They're called stabilons and they're on every model as best as i can tell. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #20 July 20, 2003 QuoteI had thought that the old ones didn't have those but I can't find any pics either so I must be wrong. I flew on a C model once I think. Neat little plane No standup headroom though, especially near the tail. The D model has a higher ceiling so passengers can stand up straight. Edit: ok, i looked it up. They're called stabilons and they're on every model as best as i can tell. Dave Yah, how many fins DOES it take to make the thing go straight? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites