AggieDave 6 #26 July 1, 2003 I really worry about those systems when doing other types of jumps, like hybrids, having someone hang off of your chest strap or launching some sort of RW jump with somone hanging on your chest strap. Although I could be wrong, I hope I am, since that would help with a bit of worry that I have.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kerozene 0 #27 July 1, 2003 They should paint the metal bracket yellow or red so when the strap doesn't pass through it, the color is still visible. When the strap would correctly wrap the buckle/bracket, the red color would be hidden... May this has been though of before... I triple check my chest strap on every jump... I'm almost paranoid about it... "That makes me angry, and when Dr. Evil gets angry, Mr. Bigglesworth gets upset. And when Mr. Bigglesworth gets upset....people DIE!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kerozene 0 #28 July 1, 2003 May this has been though of before... Maybe this has been... sorry for the typo.. "That makes me angry, and when Dr. Evil gets angry, Mr. Bigglesworth gets upset. And when Mr. Bigglesworth gets upset....people DIE!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lala 0 #29 July 1, 2003 The same incident is also discussed in the Incidents forum: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=547259;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #30 July 1, 2003 I was camera on a 16 way out of the Skyvan this past weekend. A jumper in student gear comes sprinting out onto the loading area and doesn't have any of her shit together. Still putting her helmet on, chest strap undone, leg straps not stowed, just about everything. So with the engines running (roaring), and my jaw clamped into my Batrack I give her the stop sign, the relax sign, and do a thorough gear check. I start by pointing at her undone chest strap ("Oh, shit" she says) and had her route it, stow her leg straps and then I checked the rest. Fuck losing the jump ticket! Would you put three rounds in a revolver and do the Russian roulette thing for $18? Many thanks to that Roger Ponce load for not yelling while I held them up. Veteren skydivers never seem to get wound about safety checks causing some delays. Keith Wyatt taught me that. But don't come out of the hangar until you're ready to skydive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skr 1 #31 July 8, 2003 I caught one this weekend, a new person I was jumping with. We had been through gear checks on enough jumps that I thought they had it, so I told them "OK, you're on your own, I'm not even going to look.". But I surreptitiously did anyway, and shit! They're chest strap was just looped through the friction buckle and then through the elastic keeper! How could they do it right several times in a row and then do it wrong? I'm wondering about heat, dehydration and tiredness. I caught one last year that I'm pretty sure was from that. At about 10,000 ft a guy with a couple hundred jumps was sitting there with this puzzled look on his face pulling his chest strap back and forth through the friction buckle, wondering why it wasn't staying in place. I reached over and helped him fix it. In hindsight if he was too wasted to figure it out he probably shouldn't have gone and if I was too wasted to think of that I probably shouldn't have gone either. But, you know, we're skydivers, so we went. Skr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasmin 0 #32 July 8, 2003 QuoteToo many, and it annoys me. Its just one buckle. Its right there under your nose. Its inexcusable. I'm a woman. I have breasts. My chest strap, like my handles, reside under them. They aren't just under my nose.... That doesn't, however, give me any excuse not to check it or get it checked by someone else. If you look in the incidents forum there is reference to a woman falling out of her rig due to a broken chest strap. icky icky icky chest straps aren't designed as grippers or to take the opening shock (esp. a head down premmie) and your weight, your harness is designed to take around 5000pds, your chest strap isn't.... If you want to take a grip/dock use your jumpsuit or your harness, not your chest strap perhaps?xj "I wouldn't recommend picking a fight with the earth...but then I wouldn't recommend picking a fight with a car either, and that's having tried both." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tombuch 0 #33 July 8, 2003 We had a similar incident this weekend. The chest strap was properly routed through the tension bar and was inspected prior to the jump. It came undone anyway. See the post in the INCIDENTS forum (http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view&post=558097#last with photos. Tom Buchanan Author JUMP! Skydiving Made Fun and EasyTom Buchanan Instructor Emeritus Comm Pilot MSEL,G Author: JUMP! Skydiving Made Fun and Easy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites