Muenkel 0 #1 July 1, 2003 Last weekend, my jumpmaster told me I had a very fast drop rate in freefall and I didn't ask him what he meant by that. I'm not a big guy, only 5'7", 160lbs. Can anyone explain to me what he meant exactly? I thought we dropped at 120mph. Thanks, Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #2 July 1, 2003 Sounds like you ARCH a lot.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loughery 0 #3 July 1, 2003 Everyone does not fall at the same rate. Even a fall rate of a couple of miles an hour difference will make a big diffence in a skydive. Some of the factors that affect your fall rate are Jumpsuit, Weight, Arch, Body position, height. What he meant by it was that you fall faster than he does and he probably had a hard time keeping up with you.TOT www.SkydiveMoncton.com To my wife: 'If you ask me to stop skydiving, you are asking me to move out!' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #4 July 1, 2003 In the future, you shouldn't have too many problems with your fall rate what with you weighing 160 lbs (I'm assuming that's your naked weight). I'm at about 200 lbs and I'm considered to have a fast fall rate (especially when I go head down). But clothing can influence your fall rate if you fall too fast (wear lose clothing) or too slow (wear tight clothing). Also, as you become more experienced, you'll learn how to control your fall rate relative to others by exposed more or less of your body to the air mass. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #5 July 1, 2003 Wind resistance. The more surface to weight, the slower you go, the less surface to weight, the faster you go. If you tend to Arch "Hard" as unfortunately tought by many instructers, the air will spill off you easier and the faster you go. A more comfortable relaxed arch is easier to fly and more maneuverable. Do a coach dive or 2 and practive fall rate. The coach will match your fall rate, then slow down. You match his fall rate by slowing down. Then he will speed up and you do the same. I will leave it up to the person you do the jump with to teach you the techniques to fly slower. 120 is an average belly speed... freefliers average around 150 - 160... and speeds of over 300 are attainable.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phonics1981 0 #6 July 1, 2003 On my AFF Level 7, both my instructor and the videographer recorded my average fall rate at 140mph. I'm 5'7 and 11 and a half stone (Not sure what these equates to in pounds). Is this normal? ------------------------------------------------------ "Ive given up on sigs cos I make a mess of them!" ------------------------------------------------------ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #7 July 1, 2003 QuoteOn my AFF Level 7, both my instructor and the videographer recorded my average fall rate at 140mph. I'm 5'7 and 11 and a half stone (Not sure what these equates to in pounds). Is this normal? 14lbs/stone = 161lbs That seems fast. -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #8 July 1, 2003 QuoteI'm not a big guy, only 5'7", 160lbs. Dude, I'm 6'2, 160lbs. I have to wear a skin tight RW suit and work hard on my body position to maintain a relative fall rate. You sound about average build. Maybe just flatten out a little or a baggier suit? Or just jump with someone that can vary his/her fallrate and let you match. --Jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumperpaula 0 #9 July 1, 2003 A good fallrate on an average sized jumper would indicate to me that you are very relaxed in freefall. Is that the case? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #10 July 1, 2003 Right now, don't worry about it, its your job to fall and their job to deal with it. You'll learn how to slow your fall rate as you progress through your student program.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumprunner 0 #11 July 1, 2003 QuoteWind resistance. The more surface to weight, the slower you go, the less surface to weight, the faster you go. If you tend to Arch "Hard" as unfortunately tought by many instructers, the air will spill off you easier and the faster you go. A more comfortable relaxed arch is easier to fly and more maneuverable. Do a coach dive or 2 and practive fall rate. The coach will match your fall rate, then slow down. You match his fall rate by slowing down. Then he will speed up and you do the same. I will leave it up to the person you do the jump with to teach you the techniques to fly slower. 120 is an average belly speed... freefliers average around 150 - 160... and speeds of over 300 are attainable. Thats what they were telling me about the relaxed arch, but Im just a little paranoid about, if you relax too much, is there a chance you can start flipping unexpectedly? I tend to want to throw my waist out forward when I get nervous about it (ie fear of the unknown?). Is there any creditiablitly in thinking that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phonics1981 0 #12 July 1, 2003 Quote Thats what they were telling me about the relaxed arch, but Im just a little paranoid about, if you relax too much, is there a chance you can start flipping unexpectedly? I tend to want to throw my waist out forward when I get nervous about it (ie fear of the unknown?). Is there any creditiablitly in thinking that? The more you arch (relaxed), theoretically the more stable you will be. As my instructors drummed into me, "Like a shuttlecock"!! ------------------------------------------------------ "Ive given up on sigs cos I make a mess of them!" ------------------------------------------------------ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genn 0 #13 July 1, 2003 Quote "Like a shuttlecock"!! or Dick Down! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 0 #14 July 1, 2003 Think your fast? Think again... I'm 5.10 and 215lbs au-natural (240-245 geared), by using by using baggy, high drag suits (RW/VRW) and having learned to be aware of how I'm flying I good to go with almost anyone. Which is "NICE". ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Galen 0 #15 July 2, 2003 I had a very fast fallrate while I was on AFF/student status and probably a little while after that. I had a pretty severe arch. I've worked to correct that and got fit for a jumpsuit by an instructor. I haven't had any complaints of falling too fast with my few rw jumps. In fact, I've been told I have a decent range. Respect the Dolphin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumprunner 0 #16 July 2, 2003 QuoteQuote Thats what they were telling me about the relaxed arch, but Im just a little paranoid about, if you relax too much, is there a chance you can start flipping unexpectedly? I tend to want to throw my waist out forward when I get nervous about it (ie fear of the unknown?). Is there any creditiablitly in thinking that? The more you arch (relaxed), theoretically the more stable you will be. As my instructors drummed into me, "Like a shuttlecock"!! Thanks, Ill keep in in mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #17 July 2, 2003 Remember also, that speed is relative. A bicycle is fast if you're walking - slow if you're driving. It's also not your problem at this stage. It's your JM's job to be where you are, if you're doing AFF. Tell him to wear more weight next time! Blue Skies, tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #18 July 2, 2003 Yeah... i happen to be a fast faller too!!! So, just jump with other fast fallers! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #19 July 3, 2003 THIS should explain ____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Layton 0 #20 July 3, 2003 you bumbs. im 6 2 and weigh 140 i float so bad its not funny ive gone out of the plane with a lot of folks but i always seem to wind up by myself above everyone else watching.im learning to sit fly and i can keep up with the 2 freefly chicks that are teaching me to sitfly.but the dz owner says i get more for my money than the anvil ait folks up there.***if you are going to be stupid you better be tough Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites