Psycho-pack. Some piece of advise?

[mds58 0]

Hello.
After over 400 pro-pack, now with new canopy, I decided to try the way of psycho-pack.
Is there someone that he can give me some piece of advise? Is it something to avoid? Or something in particular I have to be careful..
Are there more risk than pro-pack about line-twists?
Thank you
Maurizio

[wmw999 2,442]

The main piece of advice I have (I psycho pack) is not to forget which way you turned the canopy over when you go to turn it back. Best to do it early enough to use the lines as your guide, but if you forget and make the first couple of stows, then you have to remember.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[HRHSkyPrincess 0]

Okay, what is this psycho pack I've heard tell about? Had any mals as a result? Is it easier to bag the canopy using psych p method instead of pro p?

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[Aviatrr 0]

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The main piece of advice I have (I psycho pack) is not to forget which way you turned the canopy over when you go to turn it back. Best to do it early enough to use the lines as your guide, but if you forget and make the first couple of stows, then you have to remember.

That is one of the things that really freaks people out about the psycho pack....when you flip it over to roll it. I have accidentally left that twist in the lines a couple times, and it resulted in a 90 degree off heading opening....not bad at all.

I psycho pack all the canopies I jump, and get great openings and not a single mal on any psycho packed canopy I've jumped. Just like any other pack job, control the lines, keep 'em in the middle, and you're golden.

Mike

[Aviatrr 0]

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Okay, what is this psycho pack I've heard tell about? Had any mals as a result? Is it easier to bag the canopy using psych p method instead of pro p?

Much easier to bag the canopy using the psycho pack method than the pro pack method. For info on how to do it, see....

http://www.precision.net/psycho/psycho_pack.htm

Mike

[skyPrincess2002 0]

Anyone ever Psycho Pack a Triatholon? I have a heck of a time getting it into the bag, and it looks like PsyPack is a little more controlled. Almost like rolling up a sleeping bag.

[ffwayne 0]

I am wondering the same thing on psychoing a Triathlon. Same problem too. It always seems like I have more canopy than bag. Also, is a bridle extension needed when psychoing a Triathlon?

[Kirils 1]

I have a 160 Tri that I psycho pack. Never a problem, but psycho packing will slow opening.

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to be moving that fast!"

Old Man Crawfish

[skymedic 0]

you dont NEED a bridle extension...BUT...it will help to lower wear around the bridle/Dbag connection point on top of the canopy...that is why we use the extension.

Psycho makes life MUCH easier. the hardest problem I encounter is people telling me I am going to have a malfunction doing it this way. well over 200 psycho packed jumps with ZERO mals. funny when they tell me I will have a line over psycho packing..then they have a cut away for a line over on a PRO pack. like Mike said...control the lines, keep them centered, and you are golden...

Marc
otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman....

[phoenixlpr 0]

I can feel FUD around psycho-pack. Some of my friends from Hungary are telling me, that "why not, its fine you can do it". Most freinds from Finland are telling that I should not even try and telling me stories about line breaks, line-overs, extreme openings......do you wanna be a test jumper stuff. I cant understand what makes so big difference for them on bagging a bit different.

Safe landings

[steve1 5]

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Okay, what is this psycho pack I've heard tell about? Had any mals as a result? Is it easier to bag the canopy using psych p method instead of pro p?

I've got about 200 jumps on the psycho pack. Nothing even close to a malfunction yet. It's much easier to bag. I jump a hornet which has similiar material to a triathalon. It's simple to squeeze the air out of it. Have your rigger make you a bridal extension. I almost enjoy packing now.......Steve1

[sdctlc 0]

The bridle extension is not a must but it does help in the ease of packing and wear and tear. Very easy to get a 5-6" extension on the canopy and it goes a long way to help.

Psycho-Pack is usually a good way to raise some peoples eyes if they have not seen it before. It is a PRO pack but with a roll and not a fold. I have tried it on lots of different canopies and it worked great. I have well over 1200 Psycho-packs that I have jumped with no mals and many hundres more packs for other people, again with no Mals.

Like every body notes be aware of the direction of the flip. Once you start do it the same every time as it will reduce the chance to a full 360 twist in the pack...

Scott C.

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you dont NEED a bridle extension...BUT...it will help to lower wear around the bridle/Dbag connection point on top of the canopy...that is why we use the extension.

Psycho makes life MUCH easier. the hardest problem I encounter is people telling me I am going to have a malfunction doing it this way. well over 200 psycho packed jumps with ZERO mals. funny when they tell me I will have a line over psycho packing..then they have a cut away for a line over on a PRO pack. like Mike said...control the lines, keep them centered, and you are golden...

"He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!"

[freakydiver 0]

I basically modified my complete pro pack with a twist of the psycho pack. Forget about rolling the canopy over...

What I do is get the canopy on the ground, size it up for the bag, with my knees on the riser grommets as usual, just pick up the far end of the canopy off the ground and roll it under from far to close. Works like a charm and has worked like a charm on both a Stiletto and Sabre 135 for 400 jumps...

-- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

[andy2 0]

you roll it under the canopy while its on the ground? This seems like it would be slightly more squirrelly than rolling over, since when you roll over you can apply outward pressure to keep it tight, seems like it would be harder to do that if you were reaching over the canopy to roll under. Am I making sense?

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[freakydiver 0]

Sorry - to be a bit more clear, I grasp the far end of the canopy with my hands while my knees are on the slider links. I then lift the far end of the canopy off the ground and give myself rolling room, lately, I've been picking up the canopy to about a 60 degree angle if you can picture that. I don't roll it while its sitting on the ground, but I pick it up to roll it under...

I just eliminate the need to roll all of it over...

-- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

[andy2 0]

yeah well i was trying to figure out a way to stop rolling it over, cause thats where I lose most of the time while pyscho packing.

Yours is a good idea, I'll practice it.

Ya'll have a safe weekend.

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[tbrown 26]

I just eliminate the need to roll all of it over...

[mcrocker 0]

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you roll it under the canopy while its on the ground? This seems like it would be slightly more squirrelly than rolling over, since when you roll over you can apply outward pressure to keep it tight, seems like it would be harder to do that if you were reaching over the canopy to roll under. Am I making sense?

You kneel on the grommets and pull the top/roll of the canopy up to your chin. You then roll the canopy down the length of your body. Fold the roll over the grommets after you get off of it and stuff it in the bag. It ends up like a psycho pack but you have a small S-curve at the grommets to get them into the center of the bag.

This is how I pack. I tried the Pyscho pack and it got a bit out of control so I repacked it my normal way. The two pack jobs look almost identical.

[andy2 0]

I understand, but the easiest way for me to "pyscho pack" is to put it down off my shoulder upside down and fold it in thirds the width of the bag (a variation of the wolmari pack). Once I have it in thirds, push the air out, then roll it. This pack job is super easy to control. Works for me, I'll try some of your ways though, I'm sure there will always be a better way to pack than what I am doing (no matter how many packjobs I do with one method!).

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[Scrumpot 1]

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to be a bit more clear, I grasp the far end of the canopy with my hands while my knees are on the slider links. I then lift the far end of the canopy off the ground and give myself rolling room

Do you roll it "against your body" from chin down to knees? ...That's the only way I can picture this. Wouldn't the lines which are already inside the canopy cocoon be more prone to "slacking" that way? I am interested in this, after having precisely this problem with "traditional" psychopacking. I used to do it with a former canopy, and ended up needing to get a few patches for line burns as a result. I really loved the openings, but have since stopped doing it.

Keeping the proper tension from the cascades consistently on up within the canopy to the connection points, while rolling (so that no bottom skin canopy material gets pinched between upon line stretch, etc.), seems to be the critical piece of all this, to me. ---Thanks for any further advice/consideration!

-Grant

coitus non circum - Moab Stone

[SkydiveNFlorida 0]

I like psycho packing, I can't get it in the bag doing a pro pack :(

Angela.

[ianmdrennan 2]

same here. very effective and saves time by not flipping the canopy back and forth.

Blue skies
Ian

Performance Designs Factory Team