flyangel2 2 #26 May 12, 2003 There's only one other person that I trust to pack my main, and he pack my reserve too. (and yes Patrick, it's the same packer I take to the Convention every year) I broke down once in Florida and once in Texas and used a packer. Never again, even after I told them what to do May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #27 May 13, 2003 LOL, we don't have packers at my home DZ, so when I'm at home, I have to. Because of that, whenever I go to a bigger place (like Eloy), I pay a packer to do it. It's one of the little luxuries I allow myself. Besides, like Zenister said, whenever I'm at Eloy, I'm either training or trying to jump as much as possible, and packing for myself just takes the energy out of me.Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeatherB 0 #28 May 13, 2003 The last time I packed for myself I had a mal. Soooo...I'm not real eager to pack for myself again! Especially since I don't know exactly what I did wrong. I packed for myself enough times to get my "A" way back, then a few times here and there...but that's about it, sadly enough. I'd ask someone to teach or re-teach me and I'd attempt a few times but then give up. I need to get on the wagon. I'm wasting potential jump money! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #29 May 13, 2003 I ALWAYS pack mine just because I'm anal and know EXACTlY how I want it!! I remember whan I started jumping I couldnt imagine packing my own chute and now I dont want anyone to pack it but me... the F$CKed up part is that I'll let my 3.5 yr old daughter pack my pilot chute...hey she does a good job!!! jasonFreedom of speech includes volume Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #30 May 13, 2003 Yes, however, your situation is different. Afterall, what's a girl to do when men are falling all over themselves to pack for you? Let them do pack of course Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai136 0 #31 May 13, 2003 didn't vote. Usually I pack my own rigs but my teammate is hard up for cash; so now I pay him to pack my rigs. Ken"Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmpnkramer 0 #32 May 13, 2003 I always pack my own rig. If I cannot make the load then it was not meant to be. The reason I like to pack my own rig is because this way I know who to blame when it is ASSES UP!!! Another reason is that a few of us in Texas back in the mid 90's worked on the Psycho pack and got really smooth openings. Finally I now have a Replaced Hip and need a nice soft on heading opening every time. Many people these days pay to have their rig packed because they have forgotten how. It is pretty sad actually. I must say I am disappointed in myself in that I only know a couple of ways to pack. That would be Pro and Psycho. Their is always the most popular "TRASH" but that is for special people. . Honestly though there are many people out there who have forgotten how to pack. This is not good. You must stay current on everything to be truly current. Just my thought. Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slayer21016 2 #33 May 13, 2003 Interesting question, over the years i've asked jumpers who had a reserve ride who packed the malfunction? most of the time they said a paid packer. some thing to think about. i've got over 3000 jumps and 1 reserve ride and would never consider letting some one else pack my chute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #34 May 13, 2003 Well if you figure that the average mal rate is 1 in 1000 and a busy packer will pack 1000 rigs in a relatively short time, mals will happen. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slayer21016 2 #35 May 13, 2003 I've seen packers with a track record of about 1 mal every 200 packs. but people seem to put that aside and that attitude has always concerned me. but it's there life and there money and besides allot of people think i'm crazy and maybe i am?. my next project is to set up an in flight tow system behind our casa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #36 May 13, 2003 At my small dz, there are very few "packers" ... and said "packers" are rarely around ... so we all pack our own gear pretty much every jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #37 May 13, 2003 I'm just learning to pack -about 6 jumps on a new saber, half were my pack job. at this point I would not want to pack for anyone else. I believe I should pack my own canopy just to take a look at wear and tear. I think I should be the person responsible for the maintenance too. blue skies jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoShitThereIWas 0 #38 May 13, 2003 I almost always pack for myself. I have never packed a mal (knock on wood) and one time I let someone else pack for me and they packed me a pilot chute hesitation/in tow. I didn't have to chop it but I was already stripping the velcro away from my cutaway handle when poof it opened. I trust myself more than I trust anyone else but there are a few people I would allow to pack my rig. I'll usually buckle if I am too busy on back to backs or the weather is just too humid and hot. It is rarely a laziness issue for me.Roy Bacon: "Elvises, light your fires." Sting: "Be yourself no matter what they say." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casch 0 #39 May 13, 2003 I have packed for about 30 out of my 37 jumps so far. I actually like to pack...of course I'm not coercing a ZP-Slippier-than-snot-on-a-brass-doornob into a tiny little bag. Still on F11 student gear for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #40 May 13, 2003 Unless I am in a competition, or back to backs...Or tandems. I pack my own...I did 19 team jumps last camp and packed everyone of them. I think that eveytime you get a license...you should have to pack your main, and spot the aircraft. It is a real shame that a lot of people don't know how to pack. It instills confidence in your gear. Ron"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #41 May 13, 2003 I pack only when I have to. Why? I do about 10 AFF dives a day at about R250 each (+-$30) which adds up to about $300 a day. During the time my rig spends being packed, I am usually briefing or debriefing a student. Were I to pack my own rig I would save money, but probably compromise my service to the student, and maybe even do fewer dives. I took a week to learn to pack, and 7 years to learn to be an AFF Instructor. I prefer doing AFF to packing. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casie 0 #42 May 13, 2003 I pack for myself when I'm jumping my own rig. I'm too paranoid that something might happen due to something I might have done...yuk! ~Porn Kitty WARNING: Goldschlager causes extreme emotional outbursts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #43 May 13, 2003 Okay, I know I'm horrible for doing this, but I rarely pack for myself. I can make up many excuses as to why I shouldn't pack for myself, but I know better, and I should learn to pack well. With the amount of jumps I have, it's scary knowing that I really just can't pack at all. Even after hearing everybody's little "tricks" to get a canopy into a bag, closing it all up (the two things that I just can't do while packing), I still have so many difficulties with it, and I get so frustrated (I turn into a psycho bitch while packing). Packing takes some of the enjoyment out of the sport for me. I had a great time at Rantoul...you know why? Because out of the 60+ jumps I made, I maybe packed 10 times...and that was with my F-111 canopy...something I could pack in less than 10 minutes. I envy the people that can pack in 5 minutes. If it took me only 5 minutes, I'd probably pack for myself more. If I didn't get so frustrated trying to get my canopy into the bag, I'd probably pack more.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pkasdorf 0 #44 May 13, 2003 The only occasions in which I do not pack it myself are: 1) A boogie. Time is usually short and it saves me time to chat with old and new friends, comment on jumps and activity and enjoy the whole boogie atmosphere. In this case I only give it to a trusted packer, the only two times I didn't I got many line twists that made me sweat! 2) In normal activity when a trusted colleague and friend offers himself to pack for me (I sometimes do for others). HISPA # 18 POPS # 8757 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bunge 0 #45 May 13, 2003 90% of the time i pack my own. I teach packing every now and then and will jump my students pack jobs if they wont. (of course i do watch that pack job closely!) I feel more comfortable jumping with my camera if i did the pack. BUNGE I don't hate them, I just like us better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #46 May 14, 2003 nobody takes your life as seriously as you do..Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akaGQ 0 #47 May 14, 2003 Not just no but HELL NO, lol perhaps Im a dumbass for not doing it and yes Im sure it would have saved me some money by now but I dont really care... Ive always hated packing did it for about the first 100 jumps and now its like um no thanx I still break a sweat S-folding it and stuffin it in the bag, however maybe I answered the poll incorrectly. If I had to then yes I would but under normal circumstancesw I try my damn'dest to avoid it at all costs. - GQ ... it was the love of the air and sky and flying, the lure of adventure, the appreciation of beauty ... -Charles Lindberg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralu 0 #48 May 14, 2003 I always pack my own rig. ralu what would be a woman without her dreams.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #49 May 14, 2003 I cant afford to pay a packer...but in times llike $7 sundays I can if I dont have time and STILL save money from the original Jump tick! My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoHawley 0 #50 May 14, 2003 I pack my own, but it's a brand new Sabre 2 and it don't look pretty! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites