Nutz 0 #1 April 23, 2003 OK I am opening up a BIG can of worms here but here goes: When properly executed, skydiving is safer than driving your car. Have fun!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #2 April 23, 2003 QuoteOK I am opening up a BIG can of worms here but here goes: When properly executed, skydiving is safer than driving your car. Wheee! Troll on a roll! I just don't buy it. Give me numbers and maybe I'll change my mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allicat 0 #3 April 23, 2003 I read somewhere (stats on uspa.com?) that one's chances of dying in a car accident in a given year are equal to skydiving 17 times that year. So, for most skydivers, we are more likely to die skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DYEVOUT 0 #4 April 23, 2003 QuoteTroll on a roll! Looks like one of them "whuffo trolls" too. It should probably post in Talkback, or not at all. ----------------=8^)---------------------- "I think that was the wrong tennis court." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigBird 0 #5 April 23, 2003 I'm much more likely to die driving to the DZ.....There are some wide open stretches of road that beg for terminal velocity... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Austin 0 #6 April 23, 2003 Bigbird I think you're probably more likely to die driving because you think that you need to hold up signs to other cars that say "ugly punk bitches" Austin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DavidKing 0 #7 April 23, 2003 I don't know Nutz I have seen you skydiveDavid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutz 0 #8 April 23, 2003 You guys are funny, well some of you anyway. Others have trouble with reading and comprehension. If you have a collision in freefall - someone didn't execute properly - hard opening - same thing - canopy collision - ditto - collision with the ground - duh. I don't have figures but it stands to reason - there are less idiots in the air than there are on the road. Edit to add: And more room to aviod them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #9 April 23, 2003 Do you think an Internet forum where everyone drives but no one skydives would lose members with such regularity?Skydiving is for cool people only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #10 April 23, 2003 I drive a really BIG Dodge Ram 3/4 ton 4x4 that weighs 7500 lbs..... go ahead just try and hit me....BWAHAHA.....they just bounce off. Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #11 April 23, 2003 He's right. Skydiving isn't dangerous at all. Why, you're less safe in your own home than you are at the drop zone. All those incident reports? Made up. The videos of people getting injured or even killed? Faked. The stories other jumpers tell of seeing people get injured or killed? Tall tales. That injury or fatality you thought you saw? Special effects. It's a conspiracy, see? A big marketing ploy. In an ultra-secret program the USPA, in conjunction with the PIA, CSPA, APF, BPA, DZ's around the world, Sky Trash, the Canopy Nazis and certain members of the Freak, Muff and Rodriguez Brothers, is performing mind control on jumpers all over the world in an attempt to make skydiving seem to be a dangerous and "extreme" sport. Don't tell anybody though. It's not supposed to be common knowledge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #12 April 23, 2003 Everything is dangerous. You can wake up in the morning, roll out of bed, twist you foot, fall and break your neck, so, sleeping in beds is dangerous? If your number is up, no matter what you're doing or where, you can just die. Besides, like I always say, Death is part of life.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyhi 24 #13 April 23, 2003 You're Nutz!Shit happens. And it usually happens because of physics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry81 10 #14 April 23, 2003 Bwahaha! Everyone read Lisa's explanation before higher powers remove it from the forum! But seriously, here's a different question; given the nature of most skydiving accidents, as compared to car accidents, wouldn't you say that the "you can do everything right and still die" argument holds more for the latter than it does for the former? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
covey 0 #15 April 23, 2003 I knew it. I thought I was the only one that could see past there thin veil. USPA, NSA, Illuminati, they are all in it together. Just when you think you can get into an activity and get away from the NWO and the World Bank. They are just trying to weed out the free thinkers. The ones that question authority. Damnit hahahaha damnit damnit fuzzy hahahaha damnit!!!!! Believe those who are seeking truth. Doubt those who find it. -Andre Gide Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #16 April 23, 2003 How about if the driving is properly "executed" too? I know way more drivers than skydivers, but the skydiving fatalities among my acquaintances are in the lead by 300%.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miniFly 0 #17 April 23, 2003 Can't you do everything right in a car and still die? DWI, Sleepy drivers, etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #18 April 23, 2003 QuoteAll those incident reports? Made up. The videos of people getting injured or even killed? Faked. The stories other jumpers tell of seeing people get injured or killed? Tall tales. That injury or fatality you thought you saw? Special effects. It's a conspiracy, see? A big marketing ploy. In an ultra-secret program the USPA, in conjunction with the PIA, CSPA, APF, BPA, DZ's around the world, Sky Trash, the Canopy Nazis and certain members of the Freak, Muff and Rodriguez Brothers, is performing mind control on jumpers all over the world in an attempt to make skydiving seem to be a dangerous and "extreme" sport. You sound like the Iraqi Information Minister. JoshAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,069 #19 April 23, 2003 >When properly executed, skydiving is safer than driving your car. From a project I did a few years ago, skydiving is safer than having two beers (i.e. still legal but have alcohol in you) and then driving, per skydive/drive. So your statement is true under _some_ conditions. It also depends on how you define "one event." Is one drive (start to finish) equal to one skydive? Is it minutes in the air vs minutes behind the wheel? If that's the case, skydiving is way more dangerous than driving. I've only been in the air for 220 hours so far (skydiving) but have driven in excess of 10,000 hours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dougjumper 0 #20 April 23, 2003 Well..huh..huh..uh....driving sucks...skydiving is like the bomb ya know... its all statistics folks...bottom line seems there are less crazy skydivers in the air than behind the wheels of crazed whuffos... The glass is half full or half empty doesn't matter. Let go and have the Lord guide your path. He will take care of it all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry81 10 #21 April 23, 2003 QuoteCan't you do everything right in a car and still die? DWI, Sleepy drivers, etc That's what I was saying. Most skydiving accidents happen because you make a mistake. In a car, you can get hurt or killed just because you were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Paying for someone else's mistake is probably less likely in skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casch 0 #22 April 23, 2003 You can do EVERYTHING right in the sport of skydiving and still DIE. Not just from another careless person. I read here on the forums about a guy who when he tossed, a line caught somehow on a grommet, caused a horseshou, he cutaway and pulled reserve and they entangled. He died. He did everything right, he had a perfect position on opening, he followed the proper emergency procedured and he still died. About the only way this could have been avoided is by doing a complete comprehensive inspection of your gear before each and every jump...and that isn't going to happen. And even then, I don't know if that would have helped. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry81 10 #23 April 23, 2003 Yeah, I knew I should have used italics again. I said most skydiving accidents, by which I definitely did not mean all. I meant that when you get hurt in skydiving, it's probably more likely to be because of your own mistake than when you get hurt in car accident. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,069 #24 April 23, 2003 >About the only way this could have been avoided is by doing a > complete comprehensive inspection of your gear before each and > every jump...and that isn't going to happen. If he had done that inspection _once_ it would have caught the issue. I know a great many skydivers who have _never_ done a comprehensive inspection on their gear, and I know riggers who have missed reserve and harness damage when repacking reserves. Inspect that gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jethers203 0 #25 April 23, 2003 My SOP is to always do a gear check for people getting in the plane and I get one myself. One good one for sure at the beginning of the day. As far as Skydiving being safer than driving a car, I believe it. I often tell new jumpers or people I am talking to about Skydiving that the most dangerous thing is the ride to the airport. Of course this is not always true, but think of the number of people you know who have been in a car accident compared to the number of people in a skydiving accident. I know people who have died in both, but it is just something to think about. You can make Skydiving as safe or as dangerous as you want!!!!! John D-24352 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
