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stylin 1
QuoteQuoteBets, see the last post, the one on "Dude". I dont know, something makes me think Im getting inside of your head this time. You rip!
...except that I get paid to screw around, so...
I work on the DZ for a living, (tandems and selling gear), while I'm trying to get my singing career (opera singer) going. Hey, it beats a real job!
Yea, well, just dont let me turn you into a surfer girl, youre supposed to be a skygoddess remember. I dont know, with "Dude", "Man", youre starting to get me worried.
Time to go home, and Im "outta here", later dudes, dudettes, whuffos, skydivers, skygoddesses, and whoever else I didnt mention, its been real.
QuoteBets, see the last post, the one on "Dude". I dont know, something makes me think Im getting inside of your head this time. You rip!
"Dude....brah....where you going?!!" -heard over radio in formation at the world record in Eloy, AZ December 2003.
Bhahahhahahahahah.....I will forever have that image burned into my head.
wmw999 2,441
It used to bug me a lot more than it does now. Right now, I'm jumping more for the present than for the future. Whenever I get too het up about building my future reputation, or protecting what shreds of it remain, I get het up. When I want to jump with the "right" people and they're busy or whatever, I get het up.
When I decide that my skydiving doesn't depend on which people it is that I jump with, it's a lot easier.
Doesn't mean I don't want to get on "the good" loads, of course. But as long as I remember that I'm jumping to please myself, and not to demonstrate myself, then it's easier.
Wendy W.
When I decide that my skydiving doesn't depend on which people it is that I jump with, it's a lot easier.
Doesn't mean I don't want to get on "the good" loads, of course. But as long as I remember that I'm jumping to please myself, and not to demonstrate myself, then it's easier.
Wendy W.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)
skymama 37
QuoteHow many times have you yourself been labeled as "not loyal" or as a "traitor" for going to another DZ?
I had a guy give me a hard time because I decided to visit some other dz's over the winter. Finally another friend stepped in and said, "oh, don't worry about it, she was just slummming it."
It's not exactly true, and I liked the dz's I visited, but it's a good response to make someone shut-up about it.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon
This phenomenon fascinates me. I have been amazed at how some people treat strangers, having no idea as to their actual skills or qualifications. Even worse, I have seen the whuffo wife of a fellow instructor at "the other dropzone" around here try to make fun of ME for working at Raeford. I had to laugh. The woman didn't even know me, nor had she ever so much as made a single visit to my dropzone. I (and everyone else in the room) explained how flawed her thinking was; that we were actually all very good friends who had worked together before. She didn't get it; thought it must be like NASCAR fans or something....LOL!
Chuck
Chuck
Cult mentality. Human nature to be on the right side? Take your pick.
You have to remember the bottom line and use good judgement and above else your attitude is everything. Skydiving is a Sport not a click..ok We all have something we like in common and thats jumping out of airplanes. Enjoy the Sport ..go places..jump at safe DZs...keep a good attitude..no matter what..keep it safe so we can all continue to have fun..and remember where you learned to jump at and be cool....
The glass is half full or half empty doesn't matter. Let go and have the Lord guide your path. He will take care of it all.
sunshine 2
QuoteTomorrow, April 9th at 14:30 MST, I become voluntarily unemployed. April 15th, I begin the trek East to Illinois...That's what's next...
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you should come by SDC (but if you don't wear that hat, I won't recognize you....).
Well he's already promised to road trip with me up to SDC....hopefully he'll drive.
Back to the topic, i jump at a variety of dz's on a regular basis. I never get picked on or shunned for doing it. I love experiencing different dz's and seeing so many different people. I think it's a shame when people refuse to ever leave their home dz. Sometimes it's nice just to go play somewhere else once in a while.
Now go tell jeff to finish my pilot chute so doofus boy will get off my back!!
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meow
I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug!
betzilla 56
QuoteNow go tell jeff to finish my pilot chute so doofus boy will get off my back!!
*shuddering from unexpected visual...*
trigger 0
Unfortunately you're right,such a beast as DZ politics does exist.I've witnessed it on many occasions,in the extreme even resulting in fisty cuffs.Fortunately for me i always wit ness these events as an outsider looking in and on the whole the reception i recieve when visiting different DZ's is entirely positive,though sometimes the kicking down of a few barriers is required on my part which i fully accept as i know when i'm rocking up to strange[new] DZ i'm an unknown quantity and can initially be viewed with a certain amount of sceptism/scuntiny regarding maybe[i assume]my ability/personality.Any it's all good.
.CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER.
stylin 1
QuoteQuoteBets, see the last post, the one on "Dude". I dont know, something makes me think Im getting inside of your head this time. You rip!
"Dude....brah....where you going?!!" -heard over radio in formation at the world record in Eloy, AZ December 2003.
Bhahahhahahahahah.....I will forever have that image burned into my head.
Yea Ill be there, dont wanna be square.
Going home and going to bed, next week wave catching, long winter got me down. Gonna take off on swells this time for the long ride, but who knows, the skydiving stuff may take me into a new world, dropping the break this time, never know. Skydivers are the best shortboarders, you know it!
Skydiving rules! Shortboarders rip!!! And longboarders play golf! Ha ha ha ha.
Later dude
blah blah blah Just jump out of the plane!
-Kenny
-Kenny
Katzeye 0
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Try going to a smaller DZ where there is a group of 20-30 regulars and very few visitors, then tell me there aren't politics. Just wait till you want to get on one of the "cool" loads and because you don't have 2000 jumps they laugh in your face.
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I've experienced that. It hurt. But then, after a little while and plying them with beer, I got invited on a jump and next thing you know, we're the "gypsy jumpers!"
It happens, but like my dad says "and this too shall pass"
LA*
Is a chicken omelette redundant?
Try going to a smaller DZ where there is a group of 20-30 regulars and very few visitors, then tell me there aren't politics. Just wait till you want to get on one of the "cool" loads and because you don't have 2000 jumps they laugh in your face.
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I've experienced that. It hurt. But then, after a little while and plying them with beer, I got invited on a jump and next thing you know, we're the "gypsy jumpers!"
It happens, but like my dad says "and this too shall pass"
LA*
Is a chicken omelette redundant?
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Try going to a smaller DZ where there is a group of 20-30 regulars and very few visitors, then tell me there aren't politics. Just wait till you want to get on one of the "cool" loads and because you don't have 2000 jumps they laugh in your face.
Big fish in small ponds![[:/]](/uploads/emoticons/dry.png "[:/]"){kind=small}
. Regardless of how good they are, jumpers of this sort should try if possible to visit another DZ every now and then. Meeting more people and brushing up on social skills never hurts.
Most DZs that are worth perpetuating have people who, informally or through organizing, reach out to outsiders or low-timers.
I was at Eloy and jumped with someone who had 50 jumps a few times. He appreciated they way a number of us treated him and performed better than he expected (that's codespeak for he was having a great time). We had beers later. Helping others gives rewards and fun and frequently turns out to be a two-way street.
I don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane.
Harry, FB #4143
Harry, FB #4143
stylin 1
Quoteblah blah blah Just jump out of the plane!
No man, dont just jump. First look down and go "cool", then look up, then swing out of the door, then go "yahoo, Im fucking superman!!!!" When you get down to 4000, then go "...but not really" and pull the ripcord.
On the jump numbers thing. I asked about the skysurfing thing, something Im interested in, and how many jumps it takes to get there. They told me it isnt about the number of jumps, its about how good you are, you either got it or you dont, and if you dont you never will. We'll see if Ive got it after a few more. No point in trying to hard at a sport youre not any good at.
betzilla 56
QuoteI asked about the skysurfing thing, something Im interested in, and how many jumps it takes to get there
nobody recommends you try it until you have a hundred jumps. And having 100 doesn't mean it a good idea for anyone. I have 500, and I would want more before I tried it -- it's another variable that can play into you error-margin.
stylin 1
Im taking this into another subject so we dont carry this one off in a different direction...see Competitive Skydiving
The only thing they said in terms of this is it would definitely take more than 20 jumps. I specifically asked if it would be around 50 or 100, but got the same reply, that there is no number of jumps and it depends on how good you are.
Im sure youre good at it Bets, wouldnt doubt that at all, but the point is you cant measure how good someone is by the number of jumps theyve had, which is what they were pretty much telling me.
im going to ramble on for a minute.
Last point, I would have never thought skydiving could be a competitive sport until now, going through these first several jumps totally reversed what I thought about it. And the next thing, Im competitive because I dont know how not to be. If I find out that I cant be competitive, then that will probably be the cue to walk away from it. Itll never be something I keep doing just for the hell of it because I never do anything just for the hell of it. And Im not expecting to be competitive, because Im not expecting to be any good at it. Its a good thing not to raise your expectations too high, that way, you wont be setting yourself up for a disappointment.
QuoteQuoteI asked about the skysurfing thing, something Im interested in, and how many jumps it takes to get there
nobody recommends you try it until you have a hundred jumps. And having 100 doesn't mean it a good idea for anyone. I have 500, and I would want more before I tried it -- it's another variable that can play into you error-margin.
The only thing they said in terms of this is it would definitely take more than 20 jumps. I specifically asked if it would be around 50 or 100, but got the same reply, that there is no number of jumps and it depends on how good you are.
Im sure youre good at it Bets, wouldnt doubt that at all, but the point is you cant measure how good someone is by the number of jumps theyve had, which is what they were pretty much telling me.
im going to ramble on for a minute.
Last point, I would have never thought skydiving could be a competitive sport until now, going through these first several jumps totally reversed what I thought about it. And the next thing, Im competitive because I dont know how not to be. If I find out that I cant be competitive, then that will probably be the cue to walk away from it. Itll never be something I keep doing just for the hell of it because I never do anything just for the hell of it. And Im not expecting to be competitive, because Im not expecting to be any good at it. Its a good thing not to raise your expectations too high, that way, you wont be setting yourself up for a disappointment.
I will agree with what skycat says. I'm not a very outgoing person, so sometimes it seems that people tend to not want to jump with me or even talk to me. I guess just hanging around and jumping will help with meeting more people around the dropzone.
I'm not sure if Eloy has a "greeting party" or not, but I have been there twice this year, and both times I met many people who went out of their way to make me feel welcome. I will soon be looking for a *home* dropzone as soon as it warms up, and I hope that I will find a "happy, friendly, greeting party" wherever I end up. Since this seems to be somewhat of a problem, why don't WE make it a point to say "HI" to several new people that we haven't met at our home dropzones???Maybe this will make somebodies day!!!
riggerrob 643
Politics have burned out far more jumpers that too much jumping.
Politics are especially poisonous at Northern DZs during the long rainy and snowy months. With no creative outlet for their energy, skydivers resort to biting each others' backsides.
Former Snohomish DZO Jamey Woodward told me that he never made a lot of money at his Southern DZs - in California and Arizona - but they allowed him to distance himself from bored Washington skydivers during the winter.
The best thing Northern skydivers can do over the winter is take up another sport.
Nesta recommends sprinting. Hee! Hee!
Politics are especially poisonous at Northern DZs during the long rainy and snowy months. With no creative outlet for their energy, skydivers resort to biting each others' backsides.
Former Snohomish DZO Jamey Woodward told me that he never made a lot of money at his Southern DZs - in California and Arizona - but they allowed him to distance himself from bored Washington skydivers during the winter.
The best thing Northern skydivers can do over the winter is take up another sport.
Nesta recommends sprinting. Hee! Hee!
Oh, my, we try to keep jumping during the winter (just dress warmly). That keeps the vibes up, although it may be more difficult in the US Pacific Northwest and Canadian West weather than for us, although much of this winter was not so great.
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I don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane.
Harry, FB #4143
Harry, FB #4143
...except that I get paid to screw around, so...
I work on the DZ for a living, (tandems and selling gear), while I'm trying to get my singing career (opera singer) going. Hey, it beats a real job!
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