stylin 1 #1 April 9, 2003 Followup from subject DZ Politics -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I asked about the skysurfing thing, something Im interested in, and how many jumps it takes to get there -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- nobody recommends you try it until you have a hundred jumps. And having 100 doesn't mean it a good idea for anyone. I have 500, and I would want more before I tried it -- it's another variable that can play into you error-margin. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The only thing they said in terms of this is it would definitely take more than 20 jumps. I specifically asked if it would be around 50 or 100, but got the same reply, that there is no number of jumps and it depends on how good you are. Im sure youre good at it Bets, wouldnt doubt that at all, but the point is you cant measure how good someone is by the number of jumps theyve had, which is what they were pretty much telling me. im going to ramble on for a minute. Last point, I would have never thought skydiving could be a competitive sport until now, going through these first several jumps totally reversed what I thought about it. And the next thing, Im competitive because I dont know how not to be. If I find out that I cant be competitive, then that will probably be the cue to walk away from it. Itll never be something I keep doing just for the hell of it because I never do anything just for the hell of it. And Im not expecting to be competitive, because Im not expecting to be any good at it. Its a good thing not to raise your expectations too high, that way, you wont be setting yourself up for a disappointment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 April 9, 2003 Check out THIS web site for a skysurf school run by one of the best skysurfers on the planet, Tanya Garcia O’Brien. Also, there's a heck of a lot of different types of competition in all of skydiving. Check them all out, they're all incredible. I'm really glad you've come around and figured some stuff out. Welcome to a larger world.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stylin 1 #3 April 9, 2003 QuoteCheck out THIS web site for a skysurf school run by one of the best skysurfers on the planet, Tanya Garcia O’Brien. Also, there's a heck of a lot of different types of competition in all of skydiving. Check them all out, they're all incredible. I'm really glad you've come around and figured some stuff out. Welcome to a larger world. Yep, I get that impression, competitive. Thanks for the link. Here's the reqs on Skysurfing: To enter the Perris Valley Skysurfing School, you must have a minimum of 100 freefall skydives and hold at least a C License. What do they mean by this: You must also have at least 30 sitfly, freefly, or freestyle skydives. Also, Eloy says they have a world champion skysurfer on board, didnt say whether he instructs skysurfing or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #4 April 10, 2003 QuoteWhat do they mean by this: You must also have at least 30 sitfly, freefly, or freestyle skydives. Sitfly is what is sounds like, basically the same position as sitting in a chair with your arms out the side, head up in the air stream. Freeflying is the term usually used to refer to vertical flight, either head up or head down, as opposed to flying on your stomach. Freestyle is sort of an artistic aerial dance. Many freefly photos here, and freestyle photos here. You really need to see videos of good freefliers and freestylists in action to really appreciate it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #5 April 10, 2003 Quote Also, Eloy says they have a world champion skysurfer on board, didnt say whether he instructs skysurfing or not. yes, he does and he is a VERY good teacher as well as an amazing skydiver and all around great individual. glad your interested, be aware however you have ALOT to learn before you should seriously turn your thoughts to skysurfing.. one of the downsides of the xgames was that it grabbed the attention of thousands of kids who were immediately disappointed when they discovered that they couldnt go out and start skysurfing next week, there are quite a number of foundational skills you need to develop first. but that doesnt mean its not a good goal to strive towards.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #6 April 10, 2003 If my memory serves me correct, in Holland you would have to have a C licence and 500 jumps, and be able to demonstrate quite a few things (a stable daffy for 10 seconds amongst those) before you are allowed to even look at a skyboard.JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #7 April 10, 2003 QuoteIf my memory serves me correct, in Holland you would have to have a C licence and 500 jumps, and be able to demonstrate quite a few things (a stable daffy for 10 seconds amongst those) before you are allowed to even look at a skyboard. Yeah, and an itty bitty skyboard at that. Skysurfing is on my wish-list, but for now I´m quite busy with freestyle/freefly/crew and my next priority is (well, will be) camera flying. But I suppose the freestyle/freefly will help with skysurfing. Dutch regulations say you need: your C license (200 jumps), a video of the following 2 jumps, performed in a suit with no extra drag on the arms: 1 ) sit exit, go to stand up, within 5 secs stand-up and hold for 10 secs with a 360 turn, go to daffy and perform 3 controlled stable dummy pulls. 2 ) sit exit, 3 back layout loops, go to daffy and perform 3 controlled stable dummy pulls. Then there´s some regulations about size of board, exit and opening heights and stuff. And some more if you want to film a skysurfer. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamsville 0 #8 April 10, 2003 Would that be Kieth? I think I met him the other day when I was out there. He was leaving our loads on a fairly good-sized board. |I don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane. Harry, FB #4143 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #9 April 10, 2003 indeed that the man Keith Snyder aka Kebe taught my roommate as well as (at least) one of our local DZ.com skygoddess to skysurf..____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brits17 0 #10 April 10, 2003 alright guys, here's my .02 on the whole skysurfing thing, and i've said it many times before. first here's my disclaimer: i only have 100 skysurf jumps, 30 on the little bitty and the rest on the big board. i haven't surfed in a year, i'm concentrating my efforts on freeflying and competing in that arena. but here goes. i started jumping the board when i had just under 200 jumps. before even considering it, i made SURE i could stand the entire way down, do layouts no problem and punch back into the stand. you'd be surprised how much legwork skysurfing is, especially once you get past the beginner board. i spent an entire day with a guy who had 500 board jumps. we did ground preparation for 1/2 the day and then went up and i demonstrated my "freestyle/standing" skills in the air for him. he felt good about it so the next jump, i strapped on the board. he went on my first 2 board jumps, then said i was good to go... i continued to learn mostly on my own, watching videos and taking advice from some good board jumpers i knew (ie: tim bernard, tanya garcia). i've taken 3 people out on their first board jumps. 2 of them (well experienced jumpers) handed the board back to me and said "never again." the board's not for everyone. it can kick your ass... it certainly has mine. there are numerous things to consider (ie: board cutaways, canopy cutaways, bindings, etc.) that come into play. learn from someone who's been there, and who can give you a sound foundation. again, i do not profess to know everything, this is just what i've gained from my limited experience cheers! _______________________ aerialkinetics.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamsville 0 #12 April 11, 2003 You should have the option to delete a post, if that's what you wanted. |I don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane. Harry, FB #4143 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
