Squeak 17 #1 March 22, 2003 well I did a beer jump on my new canopy.So how does it fly i here you ask. Good questiuon thankls for asking. I have NO idea how it flies, the fuggin pilot could not spot an elephant in a swimming pool. We were out way too short and falling in rain (ouch). straight into a thick dense cloud bank. the 2 freefliers, that went b4 me, (who were to pull at 2500) pull at 4000, above the cloud. I see this directly below me and deploy a little early (5500).. Very soon I am in thick white cloud and can't see shit, so I go into half brakes and start a brake turn to the right. The cloud is getting thicker and I'm hoping that no one else is at my flight height. i hold the slow spiral until I'm out of the cloud bank. I'm now just under 2000 and a quick look around has me saying "where the fug am i?" I look due north (up wind) and the DZ is a few km up wind of me. Awe fug it i say . There is bugger all chance of making it back into wind. So I hold my line towards the DZ (to lessen the walk), I notice the barbed wire fence running parralel to the runway and think, hmmm might be a bit tight. So I push further north parralel to the fence and at about 150 feet do a 90 degree turn into wind, flare and land safely. My face stings My new canopy is wet from rain I have a long walk back to the hanger (so did everyone else) Now what did i learn about my new canopy, well it opens slower than expected, but I was not concerned. The opening was soft, but not on heading (probably due to bodt position) Hopefull I will have better luck playing with it next jump.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #2 March 22, 2003 Quote I have NO idea how it flies, You had a safe, off dz landing. Sounds to me like it flew great! She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #3 March 22, 2003 go away you optimist You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #4 March 22, 2003 Quote he opening was soft, but not on heading *** (probably due to bodt position) I found that one mine, just gotta look at the horizon and keep a heading fixed. Glad you got to jump it, even if in less than perfect conditions ____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirMail 0 #5 March 22, 2003 Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you had a choice whether or not to go out the door if you couldn't see the DZ. Not only that, it sounds to me like you weren't paying attention to BSRs regarding proximity to clouds. That being said, I'm glad you are OK. Patrick-- It's never too late to have a happy childhood. Postal Rodriguez, Muff 3342 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #6 March 22, 2003 Quote the fuggin pilot could not spot an elephant in a swimming pool Agreed, it's your job to make sure you get out in the right place, not the pilot. ____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #7 March 22, 2003 Quote but you had a choice whether or not to go out the door if you couldn't see the DZ. Yup. Blaming the pilot for a bad spot is like blaming the bus driver because you got off at the wrong stop. Quote BSRs regarding proximity to clouds. He's in Australia. Different rules there. Hope you get to actually fly that canopy next jump Squeak! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tosca 0 #8 March 22, 2003 ooops, glad you´re okey! I don´t like big clouds like that at all, I´m too scared of collisions . I once ended up tracking and pulling my parachute in clouds - I´ll do my best to avoid that to happen again! I´d prefer to keep my parachute dry in a situation like that... We also got other traffic in the air and bad alternative landing areas, maybe you´ve got a better dropzone. I hope you´ve got more luck with the weather next jump! Have fun with your new canopy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #9 March 22, 2003 Quote Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you had a choice whether or not to go out the door if you couldn't see the DZ. Not only that, it sounds to me like you weren't paying attention to BSRs regarding proximity to clouds. That being said, I'm glad you are OK. Patrick All true, but this is the senario, Plane is a Navajo (small sindle door aft of wing on side) Pilot is the DZO, DDZSO, CI 2 tandems on board with video, 2 freefliers, 2 "A" license (me is one) Very experienced person on the door spotting, Piolot says "power off", person at door says "WHAT" shakes his head and says not yet. Plane glides (as much as it can) foward for approcimately 30 seconds, Pilot (DZO,DZSO, CI) shouts power of again, Tandem instructor shout lets go ppl. Guy at door (camrea flyer) shruggs his shoulders says Ok. @ freefliers go out, other A license goes out, then I go out. tandem as camera follow. Now whilst I agree it is ultimately my responsability to exit the dooras an A license i do rely (possibly to heavily) onmore experienced people for guidance. This being said, I would have expected the CI, DZSO DZO to know what his doing. I shant make the same mistake again.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betzilla 56 #10 March 22, 2003 Congrats on your new canopy! Sorry you didn't have a better beer flight with it, but at least you know now that it will be good to you in imperfect situations! I have friends who have had hornets and loved them. I had a Sabre and was very jealous of them. They're good canopies. Bluer skies next time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATO33 0 #11 March 23, 2003 QuoteNow whilst I agree it is ultimately my responsability to exit the dooras an A license i do rely (possibly to heavily) onmore experienced people for guidance. This being said, I would have expected the CI, DZSO DZO to know what his doing. I shant make the same mistake again My Second Off DZ Landing was a result of the same line of thinking. Didn't know what the spot was supposed to be , Didn't ask , Didn't Look , Just followed the More Expierienced Out . Won't Happen again. Everyone Landed off no injuries. Blue Skies Black Death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeat10500 12 #12 March 23, 2003 ...to know what his doing. I shant make the same mistake again. Good,...yer learning. Trust no one" unless the situation requires it" and live longer. P.S. I'd be careful with that parachute.----------------------------------- Mike Wheadon B-3715,HEMP#1 Higher Expectations for Modern Parachutists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #13 March 24, 2003 QuoteThe slider stayed half way up the lines and needed a rser flare to bring it down (it's huge). I jump a Hornet 190 and the same thing happnes to me on pretty much all my jumps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flow 1 #14 March 24, 2003 Quote The slider stayed half way up the lines and needed a rser flare to bring it down (it's huge). I guess that's pretty normal, since that happened alot to me when I was flying Hornet 150sqft. But then again, never on my 135sqft Hornet so I guess wingloading could have something to do with this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites