freakydiver 0 #1 March 11, 2003 So here I am at my local DZ a few weeks back chillin like a villin right? There wasn't a whole lot goin on, so we're just messin around with some 8way stuff, you know, just havin fun. We're about to get on this load, but the pilot actually had to check something out, so we decide to do another run-through of the upcoming dive and this guy says - not realizing I'm standing right next to him listening to his conversation, "I don't know why on earth they dirt dive things time and time again because nice times out of ten it never goes right in the sky." I don't know why, but this irked me the wrong way. I have never criticised anyone for their choice of flight method, whether it be head-down, sit, rw, what the F*** ever, we are all skydivers and therefore we are all brothers and sisters, right????? It's a few weeks later and I'm still irked by that one guy's comments as I've seen more and more segregation at different DZs based on method of flight. Should I confront this guy and let him know that I don't think there is a place for negativity like that on a DZ? Should I just forget about it and move on?? Anyone else have any similar experiences??? -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #2 March 11, 2003 Haven't had that experience, but I'd let it slide off your back. Just my 2 cents.Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkySlut 0 #3 March 11, 2003 Every DZ has a designated jackass...I wouldnt worry about it. I usually dont. If you do have a serious problem with him, please...please...please, take it up with him in private. My biggest pet peave is people who cannot control their emotions in front of customers. It is extremely unprofessional and the sport doesnt need any whuffos or students leaving the DZ thinking that we are crazier than we already are. (I am assuming that if this guy is such a jackass, he would probably make some sort of big deal out of this in front of people that really have no business or interest, for that matter, in hearing the whole conversation). Remember, we jump out of airplanes...lighten up!!! (directed to the jackass!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #4 March 11, 2003 Once I was dirt-diving a RW jump with some friends, and a hard-core freeflier walked by and we invited him along, and he said, "Oh, I can't, I have to go take a dump or something else equally more fun!" Maybe it's all in the tone, but it made me laugh. Skydiving is for cool people only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkySlut 0 #5 March 11, 2003 Ever see a freeflyer do RW??? That is much funnier...Even ones that used to be very proficient at it, have troubles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamsville 0 #6 March 11, 2003 The attitude by some that it will "never go right in the sky" may be partially responsible for problems. One's point of view and relationship with the other jumpers can go a long way towards making a dive go well, sometimes even with the seldom-recommended method of dirt diving on the ride to altitude. As you jump with people, you may come to notice certain traits of jumpers/organizers and why dives are consistently better with some groups than with others. Let it roll off. If the person in question persists in the subject attitude or comments, it may be time to fly with someone else. It's your choice. Also, how experienced is the jumper, and could there be a confidence problem? Remember, sometimes support and a good attitude is the best gift we can contribute for the well-feeling and improvement of others. |I don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane. Harry, FB #4143 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #7 March 11, 2003 I sometimes say the same thing about my own 8 way jumps. And the freefly guys plans. You didn't really say it was a "freeflyer" but I always figured the reason freeflyers free flew was that no one could tell if they got it right or not.Slap my mouth ... did I say that! I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #8 March 11, 2003 I would just go ask him if he wants to do a 2 way with you. Use whatever discipline he does. If he's an RW flyer then do a 2 way RW dive. Figure out some smokin multi point 2 way and go throw down. If you require some brief coaching, let him give it too you. There used to be even more segregation prior to Hybrid Dives. Now and then I like to go out and do some RW with the belly flyers. Not only is it fun but it helps clear the air if needs it. People mock what they don't understand or cannot do. RW flyers Mock Freeflyers and Freeflyers say RW is boring. (boy could I expand on that one) People are not always negative or condescending by by choice. It just happens. Be kind and bridge the gap. You may be pleasantly surprised how small that gap really is. Hope that helps Edit: Spelling... againMy grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #9 March 11, 2003 QuoteOnce I was dirt-diving a RW jump with some friends, and a hard-core freeflier walked by and we invited him along, and he said, "Oh, I can't, I have to go take a dump or something else equally more fun!" Maybe it's all in the tone, but it made me laugh. And it should, that's funny stuff! - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voodew1 0 #10 March 12, 2003 We don't have this problem at our DZ as the freefliers in a headdown dock on some of our heavyweight bellyfliers. Makes for great video and brings in a whole different angle to a hybrid dive. The only problem I see is that I either need to strap on 50 lbs. of weight or eat a lot to be able to go 160mph in a belly to earth fashion. Why can't we all just get along--this shit is to fun to sit around and bitch at each other or make fun of other disciplines. The pimp hand is powdered up ... say something stupid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nic 0 #11 March 12, 2003 you know there are very few things better than a good shit[crazy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueSkyz 0 #12 March 12, 2003 QuoteEver see a freeflyer do RW??? That is much funnier...Even ones that used to be very proficient at it, have troubles. That's because we get all confused when we're on our bellies! Muscle memory keeps saying to look for your pud! -Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivejersey 0 #13 March 12, 2003 More to the point why the hell do you give a shit what he thinks. You're having fun aren't you???? You can always pick your mates just dont pick him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkySlut 0 #14 March 12, 2003 Yep, going head down...I have a nasty habit of arching for some reason...although I can go head down in an RW suit just fine, but look out if I am in a fleefry suit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JFC3 0 #15 March 12, 2003 I have to agree with hookitt. If for the simple reason for your own sake. Make a jump with him and your blood may settle. He may hold the same opionion as before but you may find it's hard to stay mad at someone you've just jumped with and thereby easing the tension you feel. jmo "Five days? But I'm angry now!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #16 March 13, 2003 Let it roll off your back. The guy was clearly being an ass. If he wants to ruin his own skydives with his negativity, that is his problem. Now the challenge is to not allow his negativity to ruin your skydives. That being said, one of the biggest problems in my life has been knowing when to take people seriously and when to ignore them. I never learned how to let things roll off my back. Any advice on how to let things roll off your bacK? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motherhucker 0 #17 March 13, 2003 ummm. I have a problem too. I was out at the DZ the other week and this guy got in front of me in the manifest line. I still got on the load, and I think he just didn't see me there, but that's not the point. Should I let him have it? I mean he CUT IF FRONT OF ME!!!! Can you believe that?? these damn skydivers have some nerve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkySlut 0 #18 March 13, 2003 Its pretty hard to see the line when you have your head stuck up your ass... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mixoligist 0 #19 March 13, 2003 Kick his ass...drink his beer and take his woman. Or just let it slide...ethier way will work Blue skies Bob.................................. Better you than me .................................. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites