21 sq.ft. Xaos pic

[GroundZero 0]

Here's Andy Farrington flying the Xaos 21-21..

and his comments...

"Heres a picture the thing opened like butter a little touchey but all in all pretty good
LAter
ANDY"

[SkyMissy 0]

Holy Crap. That's all. Holy crap!

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Mike

[councilman24 37]

They didn't need the wide angle lens.

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[lukepinion 0]

That is TINY! No doubt it opened like butter....probably not to hard to pack either

Luke

[weid14 0]

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Here's Andy Farrington flying the Xaos 21-21..

and his comments...

"Heres a picture the thing opened like butter a little touchey but all in all pretty good
LAter
ANDY"

I wonder how it would fly without the d-bag/PC attached. seems as though that would contribute significantly to drag and distortion on the top skin

[jumperconway 0]

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Here's Andy Farrington flying the Xaos 21-21..

and his comments...

"Heres a picture the thing opened like butter a little touchey but all in all pretty good
LAter
ANDY"

Looks kinda small compared to my 25.......Oh wait, mines an 85!
I want to see the picture of him LANDING it!!!!

[dterrick 0]

Wow, an eliptical drogue

I wonder when or if we'll get numbers as to flight and vertical descent speed. Faster than a tandem but slower than a wingsuit? Any way to make it collapse when you deploy a "real" parachute?

Dave

Life is very short and there's no time for fussing and fighting my friend (Lennon/McCartney)

[jumperconway 0]

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Wow, an eliptical drogue
Any way to make it collapse when you deploy a "real" parachute?

Yea,it's called a cut-away handle!

[buzzfink 5]

How about a video of him landing it.


Buzz

[spidermonky 0]

Is this for real?!? I've never heard of anything below about 80 sq. ft.

[SkyMissy 0]

I thunk someone jumped s ~55 semi-regularly.?.?

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[SkymonkeyONE 4]

The 21 square foot Xaos 21 is, to my knowledge, the smallest main flown on individual risers. The Cobalt 25 was jumped several times by Eric Butts and a coupld of other privateers in Texas, but it was only flown on a single point hookup, then chopped. We were going to jump the Cobalt 25 in Lousiburg last year, but time was short so we did the first jumps on the Cobalt tandem instead. The one guy that was going to jump the 25 is the dude that took the 1600 foot naked BASE suicide plunge shortly thereafter. Very unfortunate. At any rate, it has been speculated that since Luis Cani successfully landed the 46 with up to 30 pounds of lead on, that he could live through a 39 square foot landing under a VX that size. I am a small motherfucker at 153 pounds, but I can tell you that I have no desire to jump something that small, even on a tertirary rig.

Chuck

[CrazyIvan 0]

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I am a small motherfucker at 153 pounds, but I can tell you that I have no desire to jump something that small, even on a tertirary rig.

Dude, I'm 140 Lb and I'D HAVE TO BE NUTS, to even think of jumping one of those. NO WAY MAN!!!

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[Quincy 0]

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Wow, an eliptical drogue

Dave

Nah...A slider with a top skin...

Quincy...

[Casch 0]

DUDE! I'm a 250 student and I'd love to jump that thing!

[AggieDave 6]

Lets see, I'd load that at 13.3:1...can I jump it? j/k

My question, what is really the point of taking canopies that small, there's not that many midgets in skydiving, the market isn't that big.

Wouldn't it be more benificial for companies to spend time researching new designs for more efficient canopies, etc then spending time with this stuff?

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[indyz 1]

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Wouldn't it be more benificial for companies to spend time researching new designs for more efficient canopies, etc then spending time with this stuff?

Reasons for building a tiny, tiny, canopy:
1. Publicity. Judging by all of the posts about this thing, I think it worked.
2. Because they can. I think that everybody reading this thread is dreaming about taking that thing for a spin.
3. Sales. It's easier to lug around to trade shows, easier to show the different parts to people, etc.
4. Research. Maybe, just maybe, it would turn out to have some usable qualities. Add a propeller and a camera for a ram-air spy drone? Cheap to make, man-portable, easy to teach a soldier how to use. There has been research in modifying model airplanes to give individual units the ability to scout ahead down roads and into towns. This could fit that bill.

[fool 0]

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Wouldn't it be more benificial for companies to spend time researching new designs for more efficient canopies, etc then spending time with this stuff?

[AggieDave 6]

That doesn't make it efficient, that makes the canopy robust. Different then what I was asking, since with current canopy design, flying a wing that small isn't doable for 99.999999% of the skydiving community, and it isn't practical for anyone to jump as their normal canopy day in and day out.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[LouDiamond 1]

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My question, what is really the point of taking canopies that small, there's not that many midgets in skydiving, the market isn't that big.

I can honestly say I've NEVER seen a skydiving midget on a DZ, in a video or heard of a midget skydiving. Dave, i think you should contact the USPA and the United Coalition for little People and inquire as to the number of skydiving midgets. Please let us know what you are able to find out.

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[narcimund 0]

What is the difficulty in flying this little thing? I'm not talking about landing it, of course, which is out of the question for just about anyone. But what's it like to fly it?

Of course it comes down fast but so what? Why can't just anyone open one of these high, zoom around for a couple of minutes, then cutaway at a couple of grand and land their normal canopy?

Hell, it could be used like a tandem drogue. Pop it out the door, zoom around until 3k, then pull a pin which allows it to extract the main.

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[TheMonkey 0]

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I can honestly say I've NEVER seen a skydiving midget on a DZ, in a video or heard of a midget skydiving

we took a midget on a tandem at Skydive Virginia a few years back....they put the shortest skydiver (aka midget) with the biggest tandem instructor....the video is extremely entertaining!!!

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[PhreeZone 20]

Why? I takes a lot more skill to build something smaller then it does to build it larger. With that many seams so close together I'll bet they were stumped a few times on how to assemble it and let it still have the tolerences of the first one. Seam tension is hard enough to do on a large canopy, having that many seams so close together must have been a night mare.

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[mewing120 0]

Does anyone know if it was actually landed or chopped?

Ora Vivo

[adamjenner 0]

What about Luigi and the Icarus Extreme VX 46 haha I thought that was small.
They have videos of him landing the VX46 on the Icarus Website...the swoops are fast and long. I'm pretty sure the 21 is nuts on landings.