Rdutch 0 #1 January 28, 2003 OK after reading about Kevin's misrouted bridle, I just wanted to talk about something that happened to me this weekend. I let a someone borrow my rig, the canopy was too small for him so he put a bigger one in my container, and after he finished jumping re-assembled it. We were talking about the new lines on my canopy and I disagreed, so we opened the container, to see who was right or wrong. when I pulled the PC it wasnt cocked. So even thing's like Pilot chutes should be checked if someone that your not used to packing for you, or isnt familiar with your rig packs it. Ray Small and fast what every girl dreams of! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Satan666 0 #2 January 28, 2003 and after he finished jumping re-assembled it....I would never let anybody else do this to start with, for that exact same reason anda long list of others. Unless you do a complete check it could just be a ball of shite coming out at pull time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drenaline 0 #3 January 29, 2003 Quoteand after he finished jumping re-assembled it was he a rigger or a certified packer? thats one of the reason why only rigger or certified packers are allowed to play with it, they are a bit more careful. HISPA 21 www.panamafreefall.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #4 January 29, 2003 I've seen a lot of different riggers make mistakes more often then most people want to admit. Riggers are human just as anyone is and the only difference is they havea a lot to lose if they do something wrong, thier ticket. By the same token manufactors make mistakes too. A reserve was shipped last year (in either Skydiving or Parachutist) that had cross ports cut in the wrong rigs and not cut in the right ones. Also I've seen lines twisted on reserves above the cascade and sewn there. No one is immune to errors. Get a gear check.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #5 January 29, 2003 Quotewas he a rigger or a certified packer? thats one of the reason why only rigger or certified packers are allowed to play with it, they are a bit more careful In the U.S. any jumper can disconnect his/her main and reattatch it, if he/she is the one that is going to be jumping it. That's a good thing, could you imagine how expensive it would be to have to have a rigger do your 3-ring maintance or clean your cutaway cables every month? Also, we don't have "certified" packers. Technically only a rigger can pack a main parachute to be jumped by someone else, packers here work either "in a grey area" in agreement with the jumper (which isn't *totally* by the FAR) or "under a rigger's supervision" which is what a DZs usually do for their staff packers.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #6 January 29, 2003 FAR's are quite clear, directly supervised by a rigger/packed by a rigger or its in violation of the FAR's. Directly supervised is generally taken as is close enough at any time to be able to see the situation and answer questions relating to that situation.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #7 January 29, 2003 First of all, by "here" in the previous post, I meant in the U.S. Ok, that's why I put the astricks/quotation marks around the stuff that made it sound like it was sorta-legal, to imply that some people wink upon it. Which isn't right. The DZ I pack for, I am directly supervised by a rigger, as are our 2 other packers. Which is good, since usually more then once a weekend, there is something that I need to call his attention to or ask him a question about. (edit: sorry for not being totally clear about that in my previous post.) --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites