dbattman 0 #1 January 14, 2003 Just curious. I wear 'em since I work with some old-timers that are literally deaf as a post and I don't want to end up the same way. Think about it- 8 cessna loads a week at 30 min each is 4 hours of high noise exposure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 January 14, 2003 Nope, but I think I'm going to start, since I'm fairly worried about the damage it is doing.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbattman 0 #3 January 14, 2003 I have some of the earplugs on a cord. I tie it to the zipper on my jumpsuit and take the earplugs out and tuck them inside on jumprun. Works great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #4 January 14, 2003 Speak up there son! I can't hear you over the engine noise! About 2,000 jumps ago, my boss noticed a hearing loss and suggested that I start wearing ear plugs. My hearing has only deteriorated a little since then. I have a set of fancy Sonic 2 ear plugs, but for convenience sake usually wear the cheap orange ear plugs that come on a string. I tie the string onto my goggles so I can find them when I need them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markbaur 0 #5 January 14, 2003 It's never too late to start wearing hearing protection in the airplane. If you think you don't need earplugs because your ears have toughened up and you're used to the noise, all that's happened is that it doesn't hurt any more. The hearing loss continues. Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygirlpc 0 #6 January 14, 2003 I never have. (Of course, I only have around 60 jumps) I was just wondering if makes a difference what kind of airplane your riding in or do they all damage your hearing? Danielle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #7 January 14, 2003 No, but I'm going to start. My hearing is already about shot and I'd like to save what I have left. I really need to break down and get a hearing aide. Once it's gone, you can't get it back. Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #8 January 14, 2003 Only in Skyvans (or other equally noisy planes). I don't bother to take them out for the freefall either if I am wearing them. I find it cuts down the "white noise" of the wind and I can hear my audible more clearly, albeit quietly. I find clarity more usefull than volume. Of course, this requires me to be extra vigilant under canopy as it's difficult to take them out without damaging them when wearing a helmet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkySlut 0 #9 January 14, 2003 I wear em. I have started to notice that I put the TV volume up a bit more than I used to, especially after a long day of jumping. I read a great article in an old parachutist about the decibel levels of regular otters...and it said that prolonged exposure to regular otters (dont think that there were too many super otters around at the time it was written) was bad for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamsville 0 #10 January 14, 2003 I have a bit over 1300 jumps and have not noticed a problem. Is it really recommended by the veterans? Maybe I should start. HarryI don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane. Harry, FB #4143 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbob 0 #11 January 14, 2003 I've got a Rio 600 MP3 player that is small and fits inside my jumpsuit in the inside pocket, download whatever tunes I want to listen to for the day, plug in the earphones and away we go.Who Dares Wins Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DYEVOUT 0 #12 January 14, 2003 WHAT ??! ----------------=8^)---------------------- "I think that was the wrong tennis court." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markbaur 0 #13 January 14, 2003 QuoteI have a bit over 1300 jumps and have not noticed a problem. Is it really recommended by the veterans? Maybe I should start. You will not notice a problem because the loss is gradual. It happens from riding in any airplane, including the so-called quiet ones. Do yourself a favor: get your hearing tested, and start wearing hearing protection. Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kansasskydiver 0 #14 January 14, 2003 I started wearing mine about 20 jumps ago, but i only wear them in our 182. I jumped all this new year from otters, king airs and porters and never wore them because the climb was so fast and not as noisy. I've noticed though that by wearing them i can actually hear more in the plane now and don't have to yell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frogger 0 #15 January 14, 2003 I wear my full face z1 all the way to altitude usually, and that cuts down the noise quite a bit. I assumed this was enough protection, but now you have me wondering. I there any way to check this? Thanks, Frogger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ERICCONNELLY 0 #16 January 14, 2003 In short yes. The attenuation (the amount of noise reduction) provided by your helmet could be tested on the ground. Easy in principle to get a rough estimate. You would need access to something that can measure sound levels. To measure, play white noise (static or your free fall video with wind niose) and adjust the volume until you can barely hear it - measure sound level (dB ) Repeat while wearing the helmet. While not precise, it would give you a reasonable guess. Prolonged expoure to > 90 dB will cause damage. Damage is proportional to length of exposure and intensity. Read this for info. http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/pdfs/2001-157.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #17 January 14, 2003 Yep. Been wearing them for about 8 years now (when I remember them that is.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #18 January 14, 2003 I wear them not so much for noise protection (freefall/plane noise etc.), but becaue my ProTrack is so loud (to me) even on low volume (full face Z1 helmet too).So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #19 January 14, 2003 QuoteI have a bit over 1300 jumps and have not noticed a problem. Is it really recommended by the veterans? Maybe I should start. Harry Here's how it is.... your inner ear has a bunch of tiny little hairs that change the sound waves into mechanical energy which triggers the nerves, and all that. what happens when these little hairs get to much amplitude in the sound (i.e. loudness), they fatigue and break off, enough of them do it, and you lose that pitch range in your hearing. 80 Db is the threshold for industry (well, it's around there anyway). Basically if you have to shout to be heard, it is over the threshold and you are doing damage to your ears. damage to your ears is not reversable (the little hairs don't grow back). It is wise to wear a good earplug. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faulknerwn 38 #20 January 14, 2003 I wear them on every jump. I keep a pair in every pair of pants/jumpsuits I own. I started noticing a small amount of hearing loss around 500 jumps or so and have worn them ever since. Haven't noticed any issues since. W Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raefordite 0 #21 January 15, 2003 If you don't like ear plugs, I suggest you start studying sign language. No matter what the jump plane, they are all over the recommended length of time and threshold. Good question! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mouth 0 #22 January 15, 2003 OK, so I am thinking I need to go purchase some good earplugs. Where might I look for them? Recommendations and why? -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #23 January 15, 2003 QuoteOK, so I am thinking I need to go purchase some good earplugs. Where might I look for them? Recommendations and why? drug stores have them, and they are rated in noise reduction levels. it's on the box typically. do not buy the wax ones, they can get stuck in your ear canal. and, of course, there is a right and wrong way to put them in. The ones they supply at the wind tunnel are middle of the road as far as plugs go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbattman 0 #24 January 15, 2003 I see them in drug stores and similar places but they're rather expensive- $2+ for a few pairs. Your gear store might sell them for $0.25 (like Skycat) or you could ask around- some jumpers might have extras. They should be comfortable in your ears- some of them are like sticking a piece of plastic in there. The yellow foam EAR plugs are good. My preference is for the ones that have a cord- they don't get lost as easily. The higher the noise reduction the better- probably no less than 26 db, but some go as high as 30+ db. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #25 January 15, 2003 When I was falling timber, I always used the small foam ones that you crush up and then cram in your ear. I still use them sometimes for shooting. I'd think they'd work fine for skydiving. I need to remember mine next time. Noone wore them in the old days when jumping. That's partly the reason why I say "what", every few words, when having a conversation. Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites