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tombuch 0
Agreed. So leave it as a "rule" and make it waiverable. Allow it in specific individual cases but not as a business plan.>>>
So what criteria will be used for waivering it? If your dad or mom is a DZO you can get a waiver? That does not sound fair to me.
It should be waiverable in the same way any other rule is waiverable. The person requesting the waiver makes a request to the BOD and offers specifics. The BOD evaluates the request and makes a decision.
The most obvious case for a waiver would be the kids of a DZO, but it could be anybody. Perhaps you have a 15 year old cancer patient that really wants to make a jump. You design a program that adds safety by starting with a minimum number of days of observation on the DZ, and then includes tunnel time and a computer based parachute simulator. The BOD could evaluate that program as well as the specific student candidate, and then make a decision. It's not unfair at all.
Now the big question...would the BOD ever choose to waive the rule, knowing that if there is an accident it could come back to haunt them?
-tom buchananTom Buchanan
Instructor Emeritus
Comm Pilot MSEL,G
Author: JUMP! Skydiving Made Fun and Easy
buzzfink 5
-tom buchanan>>>>>
I don't think someone should have to request a waiver. I just have trouble with USPA making it a BSR. I think it should be placed in the Group Member Pledge if it has to be there.
It does the same thing without punishing rating holders for safely working at non-USPA DZ's.
Alan "Buzz" Fink
sangiro 24
If he does get elected, we will have one of the biggest, best, and loudest mouths in the BoD
I agree with the first and the third points....
You are the second person to assume because I don't buy Don's waffle that I don't understand what he means. I can assure you I have quite the ability to grasp complex arguments and discussions. This one is rather simple, no need to bold anything in a post to me. Don said that if elected he'll "give his all" for us. Well, all we want him to give us is his unchanged statement before he sues.
He's loud all right. He just doesn't say much.
Sangiro
Hey, Jim! Yes, I agree that what he may have meant, but uneloquently stated, however, let me point out another wonderful quote of his that reaffirms his decision in not representing us
Laughing,
You all disgust me. I don't want your sissy ass votes.
Sissy ass votes or not, I'm sure quite a few people on here will grant his wishes. Most people don't like not being listened to and getting weak attempts at insults thrown at them by a possible "representative." He wants to represent me, but he hasn't even discussed issues which I find important. That's fine. I'm not going to prod him and not get a response. Instead, I voted for the candidates who willingly offered their thoughts/information in which I agreed with.
kallend 2,026
I'm really interested. Someone break this down for me. ***
A fun jumper, as the term is generally used is, as you yourself said. someone who jumps purely for fun. That is to say someone who is not a student, an instructor, or a professional competitor.
I had fun when I was a student.
skybytch 273
billvon 2,990
Perhaps, but it was not BOD-sanctioned fun. You'd need a waiver to have that.
kallend 2,026
OK, I'll qualify some more: I jumped PURELY for fun as a student. I had no other motive at all. Surely this made me a fun jumper even then.
Believe it or not, I had 99% of that already in my head. I did have to look up the URL as backup. I was a flight instructor at the time.
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