velcro vs velcroless toggles

[miniFly 0]

Which do you prefer?,

Seems to me that the velcroless toggles require considerable more force to release and sometimes one releases before the other one putting me in a spin, anybody else with this problem?, never had that happen with velcro.

[CrazyIvan 0]

Velcroless.

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[billvon 2,990]

Velcroless: can be harder to release; keepers often not as good

Velcro: wears lines more quickly, wears out faster, unsafe when worn out

[Brisco 0]

Having just recently jumped with both, I find I prefer the Velcroless. I find them easier to release requiring just a straight down pull, while the Velcro type required a peel and pull motion.

Brisco

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[councilman24 37]

Velcro.

I can replace/build my own, I know how to keep them from wearing the lines, and there are lots of styles of vecroless, many that I don't like.

Terry

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[SkydiveMonkey 0]

I actually have velcroed velcroless toggles. Normal velcro less design, but the back of the toggle has velcro to help it stay in place. Works fine, no brake fires at all.

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[Steel 0]

I have heard both arguements. My opinion is velcro is better because I believe its less likely to have premature brake release. If I was jumping a parchute loaded at 2.0 or less I wouldn't care because you can typically just pull the other toggle free to stop the slow spiral that would be created by a premature release. In that case I would go with velcro-less because they have less wear and tear on the lower brake lines.

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[miniFly 0]

Thanks for the comments everybody :),

The one thing I don't understand is why velcroless is more prone to a premature release?,

Seems to me that velcro is a lot easier to release prematurely since it just peels off while the other system is stuck on two ends.

[Unstable 9]

Velcroless - no Questions. Before when i had Velco toggles on my Dolphin, the velcro was beginning to gently fray the lines when stowed. Furthermore, the velcro needs to be replaced after every 300 or so jumps. To me, that is a lot of Maintenance.

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[Shark 0]

Juan,

I have velcro on my Spectre, and am velcroless on my Sabre2 and Lightning. I prefer the velcroless risers. Talk with SonnyChiba, et. al. They've been jumping without velcro risers for a very long time. As always, do more research before you decide.

[gus 1]

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If I was jumping a parchute loaded at 2.0 or less I wouldn't care because you can typically just pull the other toggle free to stop the slow spiral that would be created by a premature release.

Are you sure? I had a series of brake fires on a Spectre loaded at 1.3 and it wasn't just a 'slow spiral'. A friend chopped his Vengance (loaded at less than 2) because of a brake fire - they're not that trivial IMHO.

Gus

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