fudd 0 #1 July 9, 2003 When you land, keep your helmet on until you have crossed the beer line, or all the other jumpers have landed. Someday someone will eventually hit you. Also dropzones should considder to make swoop lanes. An area where all the swoopers can land, and everybody else know they should keep out of. A little safer than having all the people swoop the beer line. Just my safety tip of the day. There are only 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kyros1 0 #2 July 9, 2003 QuoteWhen you land, keep your helmet on until you have crossed the beer line, or all the other jumpers have landed. Someday someone will eventually hit you..... and look up to the sky when you walk to see others landing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #3 July 9, 2003 If my full face helmet fogs over after landing it is safer for me to take it off so that I can look around for other landing canopies while I walk back to the packing area. Once of prevention.......pound of cure.Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrumpot 1 #4 July 9, 2003 Disagree. Not only does having a full face ONCE LANDED potentially limit your periferal vision, it most definitely limits your HEARING as well! Simply look where you are going. Keeping your head on a swivel does not (or should not) stop until you are safely back inside the packing hangar. My .02 on this one.coitus non circum - Moab Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,008 #5 July 9, 2003 >When you land, keep your helmet on until you have crossed the > beer line, or all the other jumpers have landed. Someday someone > will eventually hit you. Having my helmet off makes me better able to see, hear and avoid others who are landing. 3300 jumps and so far no one's hit me, although a few have tried and a few have snagged my canopy. I've avoided collisions primarily by seeing/hearing them and getting out of the way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crutch 0 #6 July 10, 2003 I guess if I wore one this might make some sense!blue skies, art Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genn 0 #7 July 10, 2003 It's the first thing I take off right after I land. I can hear better, but that's not even the point. The only reason I wear one to begin with is to keep my damn hair from turning into a ball of knots (if only I could shave my head...just for a day). Besides, I think that's like telling a person they have to have safety gear on before crossing a street. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornholio 0 #8 July 10, 2003 That sounds like a good idea, but for me I can barely hear a thing under my helmet and if someone is yelling "get out of the way, dumbass" I probably won't hear them. Not only that, but I think prevention and awareness are two things that are going to keep you alive and well more than anything. I recommend just keeping your head on swivel and be aware of other jumpers in the air as you are walking back. Or, as I do sometimes, is just gather up my canopy and wait until everyone, or all the non-students land and then walk back. It's only about 1 minute or so of waiting, plus the visuals of people swooping/landing are better than watching from the hangar. Butthead: Whoa! Burritos for breakfast! Beavis: Yeah! Yeah! Cool! bellyflier on the dz.com hybrid record jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #9 July 10, 2003 Quote>When you land, keep your helmet on until you have crossed the > beer line, or all the other jumpers have landed. Someday someone > will eventually hit you. Having my helmet off makes me better able to see, hear and avoid others who are landing. 3300 jumps and so far no one's hit me, although a few have tried and a few have snagged my canopy. I've avoided collisions primarily by seeing/hearing them and getting out of the way. and the majority of skydiving helmets wont do much to help you from that kind of impact anyway...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #10 July 10, 2003 QuoteThe only reason I wear one to begin with is to keep my damn hair from turning into a ball of knots (if only I could shave my head...just for a day). I jump without a helmet quite a bit. When my hair is braided it doesn't get all knotted up. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WayneRATS 0 #11 July 10, 2003 i LOVE the idea of the swoop lanes mind.... but i see the only flaw being wind direction.. is it something you'd put out before a lift ?... maybe swoopers should ensure they get out first? i'm new to all this but if there was any way of making such an exiting thing to do safer i'd be all for it. as i intend to start doing that at some point.. great idea.. certainly something that could be looked into deeper..!------------------------ Can You Ere Me Now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #12 July 11, 2003 Wind direction is probably a bit less important to swoopers. Also swoop ponds dont get turned before each load. Since some swoopers come in at about the same speed as the planes i fly, i say use the friggin runway. And when it gets so bad that i start wearing football pads in case i get tackled after landing by a swooper, i'm quitting the sport! Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #13 July 11, 2003 I like the idea of a swoop lane but as for keeping my helmut on.....I think like was mention above about just paying attetion of whats going on around you will be fine!!! jasonFreedom of speech includes volume Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WayneRATS 0 #14 July 11, 2003 we're not posh enough to have a swoop pond at peterlee ------------------------ Can You Ere Me Now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
czechbase 0 #15 July 12, 2003 With all them tiny canopies and seeing everyone heading for the same target, I would think that it would be a good idea to leave your helmet on until you get pack to the packing area! I like my big canopy, I like coming down last Matthewwww.motavi.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nightjumps 1 #16 July 12, 2003 Low man has right of way. On ground is low man. If you cannot control your canopy to avoid hitting someone, land somewhere else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #17 July 12, 2003 QuoteLow man has right of way. On ground is low man. If you cannot control your canopy to avoid hitting someone, land somewhere else. Ill preface with I am new, but from what I read is there not a point at which you just can't turn anymore or your going to hurt yourself... I would think then that you wouldn't be responsible for the people that are not paying attention to where they are walking?~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,008 #18 July 13, 2003 > but from what I read is there not a point at which you just can't turn >anymore or your going to hurt yourself... You can flat turn at 50 feet and land safely. You can flare turn even after you have started to flare. If you can't do these things, it is a _very_ good idea to learn how to do them before you need them. They could save your life when a jumper with a fullface helmet walks in front of you one day, and can't hear you yelling because he's wearing his helmet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nightjumps 1 #19 July 14, 2003 QuoteIll preface with I am new, but from what I read is there not a point at which you just can't turn anymore or your going to hurt yourself... Even though you are new, you should be making decisions between 300-600 feet. If the DZ is crowded, make that decision then. QuoteI would think then that you wouldn't be responsible for the people that are not paying attention to where they are walking? You are responsible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
