mds58 0 #1 June 16, 2003 Hi. What think about this video Aff jm? http://www.para-net.org/paramag/archives/directlive/direct182/images/fil.mov Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #2 June 16, 2003 http://www.para-net.org/paramag/archives/directlive/direct182/images/fil.mov Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #3 June 16, 2003 QuotePilotchute... in tow Actually, its a horseshoe...Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #4 June 16, 2003 I believe the students AAD fired on that one. EDIT: ie. the student didn't manage to get it sorted / dump the reserve manually____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mds58 0 #5 June 16, 2003 yes.. horseshoe or tow, it's not important. Which is the cause? Perhaps bridle was stored bad? You see the entangle is immediatly when pilotchute is half-stored into pocket. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #6 June 16, 2003 The student does even get their arm to 45 degrees and the bridle is around their ankle____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mds58 0 #7 June 16, 2003 for all readers: Cypres fired with no damage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #8 June 16, 2003 Quoteyes.. horseshoe or tow, it's not important. Which is the cause? Perhaps bridle was stored bad? You see the entangle is immediatly when pilotchute is half-stored into pocket. If you advance frame by frame, you can see that the bridle is not visible until the pilot is fully extracted. Her pant leg flaps when the pilot chute is half out. But, she brushes the pilot chute against her foot while it is still in her hand. It looks like the position of her feet and the luck of the wind may have caused this more than anything else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #9 June 16, 2003 It seems to me quite appalling that the videographer pulled without tracking. Note how close the troubled jumper was after the video guy opened. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ERICCONNELLY 0 #10 June 16, 2003 I was thinking the same thing. THis could have been MUCH worse. If you can't help, get away - I hope the video guy realized how close this was to a double fatal. E Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #11 June 17, 2003 Could this be caused by having the bridal outside the pilotchute? ie Folding the pilotchute and when its in the size to put in the boc folding the excess bridal back and forth over the chute? It just looks like the bridal came out awful fast. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickfri59 0 #12 June 17, 2003 What do you use to play a .MOV file. I've tried Windows Media, Real One, and DivX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #13 June 17, 2003 Quicktime.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #14 June 17, 2003 QuoteWhat do you use to play a .MOV file. I've tried Windows Media, Real One, and DivX Download Quicktime here buddy. __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #15 June 17, 2003 QuoteCould this be caused by having the bridal outside the pilotchute? Your bridle always comes out that fast -- the second it catches air. That is why it is important to keep your legs and arms clear while deploying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #16 June 17, 2003 I think it's actualy hooks on the shoes that catch the bridle....it doesn't appear to wrap around the shoe or anything, it just stays hooked to one point the moment it hits there... The video's that are a few directories up (several SCARY ASS HALL low-pulls) scared me waayyyy more then this one...JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivejersey 0 #17 June 17, 2003 It seems to me pretty clear that the possition of the legs at pull are so bent that the bridle as it is pulled out of the bag catches on the bottom of the shoe resulting in a the bridle looping around the leg and subsequently being pulled tight as the pilot chute inflates. How glad am I that students have to have an AAD. What concerns me is that this student had to rely on it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #18 June 17, 2003 Booties can serve a safety related purpose! To protect the heel from snagging your bridle.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #19 June 17, 2003 I donno.... To me, on the vid, it looks like the briddle loops itself around the foot... I looked at it several time frame by frame, and it looks like that to me...Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #20 June 17, 2003 It does wrap around the foot. BUT, booties would have helped because the loop around the foot was caused by the bridle snagging the back of the shoe. Eliminate the snag and eliminate the malfunction. With that said... do you really want to add that extra control surface to a students suit? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivejersey 0 #21 June 17, 2003 QuoteEliminate the snag and eliminate the malfunction. With that said... do you really want to add that extra control surface to a students suit? having said that...with the feet where they are he's not exactly going to flying off forwards now is he! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #22 June 17, 2003 "To me, on the vid, it looks like the briddle loops itself around the foot... I looked at it several time frame by frame, and it looks like that to me..." I'm with the Remster on this one, it loops around the whole foot, its pretty clear frame by frame. In QT pause it and use the cursor arrows (left and right) to frame advance etc....-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #23 June 17, 2003 Quotehaving said that...with the feet where they are he's not exactly going to flying off forwards now is he! Nope, but it makes for some good backward motion. ...and I think its a she. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivejersey 0 #24 June 17, 2003 Yes. Its wrapped around the foot but only cause it caught on the boot just after being pulled out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #25 June 17, 2003 I was not serious about booties for students.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites