WayneRATS 0 #1 May 16, 2003 hia i'm still working towards my BPA Cat 8 Are there any fun, productive (but safe) things i could do in my "play time" with the student canopy i'm using (280sqft make unknown) that will help me understand the workings of canopy control 4 jumps gone and i still have yet to do anything fun with it (admin guys) sorry if this is in the wrong section it's just i'm still in training and wanting to learn some new stuff ------------------------ Can You Ere Me Now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luna 0 #2 May 16, 2003 http://www.uspa.org/publications/SIM/SIMtext/Section4.htm If you visit the above link, then check the links for each category under the dive flows column. This will give you the the USPA ISP canopy control dive flows. This includes everything from basic turns and landing patterns to riser turns, reverse canopy turns, nine practice flares to find the ideal way to flare your canopy, etc. If you want more information behind why you would be doing these exercises (like the reverse canopy turns), check the links under the ISP Program column. And always be sure you are doing everything up high! These are just the basics that USPA has decided all students should try. I'm sure others will have more suggestions for you. Have fun! I'm walking a marathon to raise money for the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society. Click Here for more information! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #3 May 16, 2003 have you tried turning with any risers yet? You'll need to know how to turn with rear risers later on, so why not try?____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BenGriffiths 0 #4 May 16, 2003 Quotehttp://www.uspa.org/publications/SIM Luna is that link right?? I've got my Cat 8 but I'm sure there's still stuff I can pratice while under canopy.---------- Ben G Still Sinking :-( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BenGriffiths 0 #5 May 16, 2003 Quotehia i'm still working towards my BPA Cat 8 Are there any fun, productive (but safe) things i could do in my "play time" with the student canopy i'm using (280sqft make unknown) that will help me understand the workings of canopy control. Wayne - best piece of adivece I can give you is ask you instructors. Ther're always willing to help you (usually). But as Luna and SkyMonkey say - Partice you flaring and turning up high. ALso try to learn about using your risers. You can have a lot of fun witgh your risers.---------- Ben G Still Sinking :-( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luna 0 #6 May 16, 2003 QuoteQuotehttp://www.uspa.org/publications/SIM Luna is that link right?? I've got my Cat 8 but I'm sure there's still stuff I can pratice while under canopy. Nope, sorry, I just fixed it. Thanks! I'm walking a marathon to raise money for the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society. Click Here for more information! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #7 May 16, 2003 Do a bunch of high altitude openings and really crank the turns and have fun with it."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jncoughlin 0 #8 May 17, 2003 Be careful. On my AFF Level VII jump, I was fooling around and I buried the right toggle to my thigh. I was told that student 280's were so forgiving that I should try a bunch of stuff up high to explore the canopy. Well.....the canopy surged right and all of a sudden it spun itself up. I had maybe 6 line twists with the right steering line now locked. I immediately thought "CHOP" but looked at my alti and was at 3200 ft. I was in a slow spin but it was getting faster (still slowly). So I grabbed the risers and kicked out of the twists. At least I learned how to do it. This would have been a more painful outcome if done much lower. I was shocked to see that this brief episode ate up more than 1000 feet. The message is try things up high and never below 2500 feet. I learned you can hurt yourself on a student 280. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bunge 0 #9 May 17, 2003 i used to love to stall the big student mains, i also saw one of the packers (neal) land while sitting on the slider! ltdiver, remember that! BUNGE I don't hate them, I just like us better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WayneRATS 0 #10 May 17, 2003 i don't think i'll be trying that ------------------------ Can You Ere Me Now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #11 May 19, 2003 one of the first things i were told were that i should try to fly so wild that the canopi would malfunktion,it aint posible if you do it in the prober alti.try to stall it,more than you feel that you start going backwards,try to make as hard turn you want. BEAWARE:playing in a canpoi should be done whith out nearby traffic,and in the prober alti. Its werry fun to trashfly the canopi,in that way you also learnhow much you can push it. Rember your groundtraining by what to do if you get twists,cells that aint pressureized and so on,thouse are the common "mal"if you start to play under such a canopi.Not a big deal,but you´ll learn how to react Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WayneRATS 0 #12 May 19, 2003 cheers for that :) i must have have had all of the nusance factors (high slider, twists end cell closure) by now so thats no sweat.. on my next jump i'll be out at 4k i think so plenty time to try a turn just can't wait to jump again 1 jump away from my first freefall ------------------------ Can You Ere Me Now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #13 May 19, 2003 just rember to dowhat you feel is okay,no one should force you to anything. Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WayneRATS 0 #14 May 21, 2003 i understand that, i just don't want to get wrong off the cci ------------------------ Can You Ere Me Now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WayneRATS 0 #15 May 24, 2003 trash turning doesn't work ------------------------ Can You Ere Me Now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drenaline 0 #16 May 28, 2003 things that are fun and you can learn from a canopy is stalling it with rear riser and also stalling it with the control lines. do that above 2000 feets. ask your instructor for briefing on how to stalls in a safe way. HISPA 21 www.panamafreefall.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WayneRATS 0 #17 May 31, 2003 hehe i'm on freefall now so my chute is a 240 much more fun to play with .. so much so i JUST made it back to the airfield LOL ------------------------ Can You Ere Me Now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #18 June 1, 2003 Hey, what if you fliped upside down in your harness and wrapped your feet around your risers, that sounds like fun. might wanna check with an instructor first. sds=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #19 June 1, 2003 There was a fatility caused by this when the persons foot got wrapped in the lines and they spiraled on a few years back... read the old fatility reports and learn from them...Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WayneRATS 0 #20 June 1, 2003 erm.. i WON'T be trying that anyone got any good arch practicing advice you can give me (i've started a new thread to keep things tidy)------------------------ Can You Ere Me Now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsaxton 0 #21 June 11, 2003 Hmmm. that canopy is a good size for a Mr. Bill! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #22 June 12, 2003 Dont let yourself scared by others. Fisrt of all get your canopy open and check it! Chck your position for landing and check surrounding traffic. If you everything is fine you can play. Basicly you can try everything you want over 400m. You can stall by breaking. You can stall by full left turn and pull right toggle too. You can me a full stall and release breaks fast. You cant harm yourself. phoenix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
