AFF safety

[Sverre 0]

Is 25secs of freefall sufficient in the first 2 levels of the AFF course?
Input needed..

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[billvon 2,991]

>Is 25secs of freefall sufficient in the first 2 levels of the AFF course?

For level 1 - usually.

For level 2 - it is difficult to complete the 'standard' level 2 TLO's in 25 seconds, in my experience. Since the only time we've had to do that is on cloudy days with low (10,000 ft) ceilings, we don't have a lot of experience with "short" AFF's. Perhaps if you're used to the time you have, you can more easily deal with it.

[Shark 0]

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Is 25secs of freefall sufficient in the first 2 levels of the AFF course?
Input needed..

I concur with Bill, but interestingly enough, AFF has a minimum exit altitude of 9 grand. Here in SoCal we rarely have that problem. In regards to altitude, more is better. Well, within reason, anyway.

[markbaur 0]

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AFF has a minimum exit altitude of 9 grand.

All I could find was a 1-liner on IRM page AFF-18: "AFF jumps should [my emphasis] be made from a minimum of 9000 feet AGL." There's also a reference on IRM page AFF-21 on emergencies, "Poised exits should be eliminated whenever the exit altitude is below 7500 feet."

I couldn't find any place which said if we got to an unexpected 8500-foot ceiling we had to ride the plane down. (I don't think there would be a lot of training value in a low jump like that, though.)

Mark

[andy2 0]

not to mention the student would be getting ripped on the prices! I liked my 14k AFF jumps

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[Watcher 0]

I thought between 7,500 and 9,000 you could exit poised and do a few PRCPs or some abreveated version of the dive but could not be considered sufficent for advancement purposes.

Hey Mark, Brian and I finished our AFF, we are now officially AFF Instructors

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Jonathan Bartlett
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[markbaur 0]

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I thought between 7,500 and 9,000 you could exit poised and do a few PRCPs or some abreveated version of the dive but could not be considered sufficent for advancement purposes.

That's what we said in the course, but I'm reconsidering. Think about Cat D. The ISP calls for turns: 90s, 180s, and 360s. What our student doesn't do on one jump, he gets to do on the next. When he's done all the turns, he gets to go to Cat E, whether he's done them on 2 jumps from 13K or 8 jumps from 8K.

Congrats on the AFF-I. I look forward to seeing you on the other side of our student. Did you learn the secret handshake?

Mark