Weird ass opening

[Ruffles 0]

I have just recently began doing my own packing, but this happened to me twice before when two different other people were packing for me. Check this out:

Belly-style throw out deployment, I wait for about 3 seconds (2 seconds longer than it usually takes to get pulled vertical) and then I feel a tug on my back, then another 1-2 second delay, then I get the usual full-on vertical deceleration. This has happened 3 times now in 65 jumps on a Mirage G3 and a Vector II. Once it took so long my hand went for the red handle subconsciously. What the hell is this? If its a P.C. hesitation, why am I getting that weird tug? This happen to any of you guys?

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[AggieDave 6]

Yeah, it sounds like PC hesitation, the tug would probably be the d-bag leaving the container. Is it a bungy PC or a kill line PC? If its either, is it still in trim?

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[Clownburner 0]

While I know virtually nothing, that is how a PC hesitation was described to me... And my understanding is a hesitation that long is a serious problem waiting to happen.

Perhaps you should read this thread for more information.

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[Ruffles 0]

Well, my PC is definately cocked and is not any where near worn because I just bought it like 3 months ago. Weird thing is that this used to happen on my old rig as well. If my next post is "Had my first cutaway from a PC in tow", I guess you were right.

[Craig 0]

Make sure you are leaving enough bridle above and below the pin. I was having hesitations every now and then and I am thinking this might be part of the problem.

[AggieDave 6]

Also, make sure you're not giviing your PC a weak toss that could get stuck in your burble.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[riggerrob 643]

Two bits of advice:

First, tell your rigger to saw off your bellyband NOW!
We learned that belly-band mounted pilotchutes were dangerous 20 years ago.
Why are you jumping such antiquated gear?

Secondly, check that you are not stuffing too much bridle too deeply under the side flap. Too much bridle can easily snag on the corner of the bottom flap stiffener, causing a hesitation.

[QuickDraw 0]

Could this also be due to having the tube stows too tight ?
Maybe the bridle too short ? .....am i thinking along the right lines here ?

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[sducoach 0]

Do they put bellybands on G3's?
I think he means belly flying?
J.E.

James 4:8

[Ruffles 0]

yeah , I meant deploy from a belly jump, not free-flying or anything. Thanks for your support Quickdraw. My gear is all brand new so wear is not really part of the equation yet, the killline is calibrated properly, the bridle is the length specified by Mirage, and I see plenty of blue when I cock my chute. Looks like I'm either gonna have a cutaway and I'll let you guys know how it went..... or you'll never hear fom me again.... whichever... (JK). I'll have my rigger take another look at the thing this weekend. Maybe i just need to start throwing harder.

blue ones

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[skycat 0]

hey what size G3 is it? I had the same thing happen when I used to have a main in it that was VERY tight for the container. The pilot chute would pull then pin but the D-bag was stuck in the container, I'd elbow the container and out it would pop. How did I know the pin was pulled? I looked back and saw the side flap flapping in the wind. Ever since I downsized I haven't had an issue with this.

I would definately say Mirages are one rig you do not want to put one size bigger main in.

Fly it like you stole it!

[jumpgod 0]

....interestingly enough, somewhere around 50 jumps, i was breaking in my canopy/container system and i remember maybe 2x i threw out and there was a brief delay before the bag extracted the container. how many jumps did you have on the equipment? i haven't had the problem in a long time and i've always packed the same every time but....

....the other guy said it right.....it's a serious problem waiting to happen. i still ponder it often....unless anyone has a solution?

[PhillyKev 0]

As a new packer i would often have a much more bulgy stuffed D bag than those who had more experience. It could be that it's gripping the inside of the container tightly. Try packing it and then opening it by pulling on the bridal. See if the bag comes out or you end up lifting the whole container.

[sducoach 0]

Phillykev made a good point. But first, talk to your rigger at the DZ. Just speculation but it sounds like your closing loop may be to tight and causing a slight hesitation. Secondly, check the size of your PC,if it's ZP or F111 and it's condition. Thirdly, note how long your "slack" lines are between the risers and the D-bag, keep some slack and keep the length consistant. Fourth, try good ol' rubberbands of the proper size.
Do you pack wide or high with your folds? That can make a difference in the "feel" of the deployment.
Then, get a video!!
Blues,
J.E.

James 4:8

[beavdog 0]

could your pc possibly be too small...what size is it

Here's to the Breezes that blows through the Trezzez.....

[Ruffles 0]

Well, it happened 2X on two separate pack jobs by two different people on my old vector and its happened once on my mirage. I can lift the bag out of the container w/ no problem. Sounds like a your basic PC hesitation, but being a new diver, my time perception is kinda altered at deployment, and therefore, what seems like a 3 second delay may be a 1 second delay. I dunno. I just don't see how this is happening w/ 100% brand new equipment (including the ZP PC). My rigger said all looked well. Seeing as it happened on two completely different rigs and on three different people's pack jobs and on new equipment, I must assume that I need to start throwing harder. The problem must lie with me. Too many variables.
Worse comes to worst, there is that little red thing and that little silver thing somebody was telling me about. In that case, I'll be getting a full equipment overhaul by a Mirage rigger.
Thanks for the input gang.
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[ixlr82 7]

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Sounds like a your basic PC hesitation, but being a new diver, my time perception is kinda altered at deployment, and therefore, what seems like a 3 second delay may be a 1 second delay. I dunno.

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Can you get video of a couple openings? Might help...can't hurt.

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[Ruffles 0]

Thats a damn good idea ixl, glad I thought of it :)). Yeah, I'll get some vids (2-3) next week and see whats up. Thx man.