AFF rating, suit?

[Phlip 0]

I want to do the course but my RW suit is too tight I might not have enough range (no swoops either).
But I do have RW pants.

I've been told it was better to have a suit when instructing AFF students.

Should I order a new suit or can I still use my pants and long sleeve T-shirt?

Does it matter?

[rigging65 0]

Range is good when getting into AFF.

Do what you think is going to give you the most consistent, largest fall rate range.

It's an expensive mistake to go into testing without the right tools!

"...and once you had tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward.
For there you have been, and there you long to return..."

[hookitt 1]

My experience was this.

At the time, I was WAY out of practice flying on my belly especially in a Tight suit. I tried the tight suit and basically flailed. So I went to the course with a baggy jump suit and weights. Not conventional but it worked well.

They Evaluators don't care what you wear.
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My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto

[Phlip 0]

Thanks
That's what I wanted to hear. No particular safety issues there it seems.

[riggingstuff 0]

I have 4 suits. big,baggy cotton. It puts me at about 98-100 to about 110mph, medium, 110 to 125mph, fast,125 to 135mph, and weights. I've had to use them all.

CB
Don't look for why it might work....look for why it might not.

[riggerrob 643]

I have three different suits for PFF.
With fast falling students, I wear my sexy. skin-tight, Spandex, 4-way suit with booties.
For average-sized students, I wear my loose fitting tandem suit.
If I can't fob off the slowest-falling students on a smaller instructor, I wear my biggest, baggiest freefly suit.

[Sebazz1 2]

Dress for success...

[JGarcia 0]

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Should I order a new suit or can I still use my pants and long sleeve T-shirt?

Perfect solution: Use a long sleeve T-shirt over your RW suit. I had fall rate issues during my first Non-eval jump because the Evaluator (Glen Bangs) floated on me and I couldn't get up. Threw the long sleeve shirt over my tight RW suit and it gave me incredible range...he never got away from me again. Even now, I use a long sleeve shirt over my RW suit on almost every AFF jump.

Cheers!

--Jairo

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[r2hubert 0]

Don't you have troubles with the T-shirt on top of your RW suit? I have the feeling it can cover your handles in free fall as there is nothing to keep it from flapping around...
Or do you use a kind of belt to keep it in place....

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Renaud SMA #9
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[SkymonkeyONE 4]

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Should I order a new suit or can I still use my pants and long sleeve T-shirt?

Perfect solution: Use a long sleeve T-shirt over your RW suit. I had fall rate issues during my first Non-eval jump because the Evaluator (Glen Bangs) floated on me and I couldn't get up. Threw the long sleeve shirt over my tight RW suit and it gave me incredible range...he never got away from me again. Even now, I use a long sleeve shirt over my RW suit on almost every AFF jump.

Cheers!

--Jairo

My boy Jairo is correct. Wearing layers over your bootie suit for light and long-limbed students works great. Another thing which is slightly more matching is just buying a set of slip-on's for your arms. Tony Suits sells them for like $30 bucks. Still, for the very floaty students, I will wear a sweatshirt over my bootie suit. I always wear booties for their leg power, even on tandems.

Chuck

[Shark 0]

Yep, dress for success....
I just finished the AFFIRC and had fall rates between 112-120. I used the slip-on sleeves that SkymonkeyONE referred to. They gave me better range quicker. (Did that make sense??) Or you could do what my video guy wore: a wing suit with a weight belt. BTW, good luck with the #27 exit.

Shark
AFF/I

[hookitt 1]

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I have the feeling it can cover your handles in free fall as there is nothing to keep it from flapping around...

Very good question but nah, you can contain a shirt belly flying quite easy... pull it way down and contain it with your leg straps. I've done it a bunch. Freeflying you must take good care because in a stand up it can come out. Guess what position you are in as your canopy is sniveling? (yep it's handle covering position) So just get a long shirt and let your leg straps contain it.... tightly.

Right now I tend to do most of my AFF dives with my Freefly pants and a long sleeve t-shirt, (which I do tuck in) Or my Freefly suit. My suit isn't that baggie though.

The Range available with that set up works out great. I quit using my Rw suit cuz the zipper finally blew out and I"m too lazy to fix it. It was a blessing in disguise. Bad for 4 way but great fo AFF.

If needed I just weight up. Surprisingly that isn't too often.

As far as booties, as mentioned, I've never used them and can stay with most any thing, however It truly appears that good AFF flyers have certain advantages with booties, like reaching way out in front and still moving forward.
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My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto

[slotperfect 7]

I am a big guy (6'2", 220) and I fall fast. I also have a ton of jumpsuits. To get through the AFFCC I trained using one suit, and used the same one throughout the course. It was my biggest baggiest suit with booties. I suited myself to suit my weakness, which is dealing with a floater. It worked well. Train train train with it, though . . . and don't forget to put your evaluators in a suit that works best for you and your partner. Try and jump once with each evaluator before your actual eval jumps so you know their fall rate.

Arrive Safely

John

[dreamsville 0]

On four-way video I will wear some weights and a suit with camera wings and booties if I know that the group has capability to develop a fast fall rate. Depending up on the maneuvers of the jump, that gives me range to stay down with them, yet slow down fast if things change. I am kind of floaty in a loose suit without weights, so this is something that works for me. It's obviously not right for everyone.
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