Elisha 1 #26 July 8, 2006 QuoteQuote Whatever anyone here thinks of the decision, please don't let it affect your opinion of Bay Area Skydiving. My point - treat it as an isolated incident and deal with any oustanding related issues and leave it at that. Huh? These are exactly the type of decisions that should affect your opinion about a dropzone. If you heard great things about a restaurant, went several times and got great service and then one time had a bad incident/service due to a bad decision/server that day/whatever, would you then never go back? If the manifest was a bitch/asshole that day at Sebastian, would you never go back? Or the DZO made a bad decision but then reversed it a while later, would you never jump there again? I'm thinking you still would jump there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #27 July 8, 2006 I agree with you, its not a reason to not go but I would check to see who is responsible for the outstanding tickets. Im sure the new owner is more willing to work with them then the old owners but regardless the issues should have been covered in the take over.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #28 July 8, 2006 Just ask Jello-J - he'll tell you to go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #29 July 8, 2006 QuoteWell if they do not transfer then the old owners would be responible correct? If they do transfer then the new ones would be responsible. Those tickets are as good as money for that business unless it went bankrupt correct? Yes, that's basically correct. If the entire business was sold, the new owners are responsible. If only the "assets" were sold, but not the "liabilities", then the old owners are responsible. If it's the latter, then technically only way the old owners could avoid responsibility would be to file for bankruptcy. Of course, if the old owners can't be located or are effectively broke, then your main problem is "good luck collecting." For those of you who think the sale/purchase of a business's assets without its liabilities is a good way to screw pre-paid customers and other creditors out of what's rightfully owed to them...you're right. (I suppose that's better than the old owners simply filing for bankruptcy and closing the DZ entirely, but that's cold comfort for all those ticket holders, isn't it? The old owners got themselves bought out. The new owners got themselves the DZ. The ticket-holding customers got...well, we know what they're getting, don't we?) Unless they reverse this policy (and yeah, the after-the-fact notice was a real class act, too), I personally would vote Byron onto the Wall of Shame for a while. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gjhdiver 0 #30 July 10, 2006 Quote Unless they reverse this policy (and yeah, the after-the-fact notice was a real class act, too), I personally would vote Byron onto the Wall of Shame for a while. Honestly, they've been really good about accepting tickets from the old system. They gave 4 months notice to all jumpers at Byron to use the tickets, and that's who this policy is essentially directed at, not visiting jumpers who have a ticket or two left from a previous visit. They just don't want anyone wandering in with 500 tickets that they bought in a block from the last owner aftert the first quarter of the year. If you were a visiting jumper who had a few tickets left over, they're going to work with you so that you leave happy. They understand that not everyone is going to be able to use or return those tickets for credit conveniently. It's been a remarkably smooth change of ownership, and the drop zone is alread running better, with much better plans for growth for the future. Just give the new owner some time to get all old assumed debts sorted out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tube9999 0 #31 July 10, 2006 That is awesome to hear! Those are the kind of tickets that need to be framed and put in the museum! Nice work! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Andy9o8 2 #29 July 8, 2006 QuoteWell if they do not transfer then the old owners would be responible correct? If they do transfer then the new ones would be responsible. Those tickets are as good as money for that business unless it went bankrupt correct? Yes, that's basically correct. If the entire business was sold, the new owners are responsible. If only the "assets" were sold, but not the "liabilities", then the old owners are responsible. If it's the latter, then technically only way the old owners could avoid responsibility would be to file for bankruptcy. Of course, if the old owners can't be located or are effectively broke, then your main problem is "good luck collecting." For those of you who think the sale/purchase of a business's assets without its liabilities is a good way to screw pre-paid customers and other creditors out of what's rightfully owed to them...you're right. (I suppose that's better than the old owners simply filing for bankruptcy and closing the DZ entirely, but that's cold comfort for all those ticket holders, isn't it? The old owners got themselves bought out. The new owners got themselves the DZ. The ticket-holding customers got...well, we know what they're getting, don't we?) Unless they reverse this policy (and yeah, the after-the-fact notice was a real class act, too), I personally would vote Byron onto the Wall of Shame for a while. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #30 July 10, 2006 Quote Unless they reverse this policy (and yeah, the after-the-fact notice was a real class act, too), I personally would vote Byron onto the Wall of Shame for a while. Honestly, they've been really good about accepting tickets from the old system. They gave 4 months notice to all jumpers at Byron to use the tickets, and that's who this policy is essentially directed at, not visiting jumpers who have a ticket or two left from a previous visit. They just don't want anyone wandering in with 500 tickets that they bought in a block from the last owner aftert the first quarter of the year. If you were a visiting jumper who had a few tickets left over, they're going to work with you so that you leave happy. They understand that not everyone is going to be able to use or return those tickets for credit conveniently. It's been a remarkably smooth change of ownership, and the drop zone is alread running better, with much better plans for growth for the future. Just give the new owner some time to get all old assumed debts sorted out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tube9999 0 #31 July 10, 2006 That is awesome to hear! Those are the kind of tickets that need to be framed and put in the museum! Nice work! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
