JDBoston 0 #1 January 27, 2003 Two experienced jumpers had a canopy collision at <2000' at the Great White North Boogie in Lake Wales FL this weekend. They had been on the same RW jump, and collided right after one of them finished clearing a lineover mal. Both cut away and landed OK under their reserves, with no injuries I was aware of other than some line burns on one guy's arm. Hopefully one of them (or someone who witnessed the entire incident - I just saw post-cutaway) can post more details on how they collided (wrap vs. entanglement, etc. - looked more like a wrap from what I saw in another jumper's video), as well as how it could have been avoided. Glad they're both OK... Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #2 January 28, 2003 Excuse my lack of experience - but how do you clear a lineover? I was taught to chop and would not really know where to start clearing it? CJP CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDBoston 0 #3 January 28, 2003 He cleared it by pumping the brakes, hard. Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry81 10 #4 January 28, 2003 Here's a link that Tom Aiello posted in a different forum a while back:http://homepage.mac.com/tbaiello/PhotoAlbum5.html . It's three pictures of a lineover on a base jump and a video of the same lineover. It was cleared by cutting the toggle off. When I asked what he would have done in a situation like this on a normal dive, he said that he would chop, which is probably the safest method unless you know you can clear the malfunction and have a lot of air beneath you. On a reserve lineover, however, the procedure I was taught was to use the hook knife to cut the line going over the canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #5 January 28, 2003 And the reason we carry knives. Fuck me - not with it today. CJP CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #6 January 28, 2003 Chris, I would steongly suggest you think carrfully about this one. Using a knife on a line over or tension knot is probably a whole lot harder then you think. You will be turning fast, and being shaken hard too. You may try to use the knife, but instead, the only thing you use is time. Someone on dz.com (Derek I think) did some tests jumps on this a few months back and if memory serves me correctly, he couldnt identify which line to cut, and that was on a canopy he rigged to malfunction, so he knew which line to look for. The knife realy is there to cut off something that will not clear anyother way... it really is a Plan C, not a Plan B IMHORemster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #7 January 28, 2003 QuoteThe knife realy is there to cut off something that will not clear anyother way... it really is a Plan C, not a Plan B IMHO I've said repeatedly that I think the most compelling use for a hook knife is to occupy your mind while you plummet to your death. However, that hasn't kept me from jumping with one - a "Jack" knife, too. I carry one on every jump. I figure if I'm going to jump with one, it better be a good one... _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #8 January 28, 2003 I was taught to use a hook knife only in case of a Line over on a reserve. I have a limited number of jumps and no plans to jump BASE so hopefully will not be in the same situation as Tom. If I had a line over on my main I would pump the brakes a few times to see if I could shift it then go chop it. Thanks for your concern. It is appreciated. CJP CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
