PNW-chris 0 #1 June 9, 2013 Hiya, Just another video link that we can learn from. This one has a few major mistakes. Alt awareness went out the window. Thanks to the jumper who posted this so we can learn from it. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnQEVDxQIxo] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnQEVDxQIxo Stay safe, Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #2 June 9, 2013 PNW-chris http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnQEVDxQIxo Stay safe, Chris Made clicky. I came across this one yesterday, the one you've linked I believe is not the original. The one I saw had much more colourful commentary below... You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #3 June 9, 2013 Covered in a lot of detail already http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4495234;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4495494;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unreadOwned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigMark 1 #4 June 9, 2013 Is it possible it was pulled loose after being properly fastened? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigMark 1 #6 June 10, 2013 I see a lot of buffeting, what if the hardware gets blown to the side just as it gets pulled? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #7 June 10, 2013 BigMark I see a lot of buffeting, what if the hardware gets blown to the side just as it gets pulled? Still No...it's a simple friction adapter designed specifically for applications of the sort it's being used in here. When properly threaded & tightened, the wind would have no effect on the integrity of the harness/hardware. The only thing loose here ~ is the basic operator skill needed to put on a parachute. ...Probably something one should consider perfecting when going on a skydive. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #8 June 10, 2013 airtwardo When properly threaded & tightened, the wind would have no effect on the integrity of the harness/hardware. Not to mention the fold over at the end of the strap is there to keep it in the hardware, even if it has worked its way loose."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamUSN 0 #9 June 11, 2013 theonlyski *** When properly threaded & tightened, the wind would have no effect on the integrity of the harness/hardware. Not to mention the fold over at the end of the strap is there to keep it in the hardware, even if it has worked its way loose. A good friend of mine had an Aerodyne rig with no fold sewn into the end of the chest strap. Came like that from the factory. Is this a defect?If you do things that don't make you appreciate life than why do them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #10 June 11, 2013 AdamUSN ****** When properly threaded & tightened, the wind would have no effect on the integrity of the harness/hardware. Not to mention the fold over at the end of the strap is there to keep it in the hardware, even if it has worked its way loose. A good friend of mine had an Aerodyne rig with no fold sewn into the end of the chest strap. Came like that from the factory. Is this a defect? Don't know about Icons, but Jav's don't have that fold.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #11 June 11, 2013 Quote A good friend of mine had an Aerodyne rig with no fold sewn into the end of the chest strap. Came like that from the factory. Is this a defect? Can't speak to the Aerodyne, but not all rigs have the fold over. My Vector did, My Javelins didn't, my Talon did (I think)."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douggarr 6 #12 June 11, 2013 This is a great teaching moment video. Without an AAD we would be scheduling his ash dive. I had a major debate with an instructor about this on FB. His position was that this incident began and ended with equipment checking. I said it only began with that. Altitude awareness begins with your first free fall and ends on your retirement jump. This video should be required viewing at Safety Day in 2014. And anybody who laughs, should be spanked.SCR-442, SCS-202, CCR-870, SOS-1353 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #13 June 11, 2013 Douggarr This is a great teaching moment video. Without an AAD we would be scheduling his ash dive. I had a major debate with an instructor about this on FB. His position was that this incident began and ended with equipment checking. I said it only began with that. Altitude awareness begins with your first free fall and ends on your retirement jump. This video should be required viewing at Safety Day in 2014. And anybody who laughs, should be spanked. I'm with you - of course the primary lesson learned is gear checks. But there's still value in discussing some of the "what if" scenarios, if only because it stimulates your critical thinking skills. As anyone who's been around even a little while knows, incidents most often occur because of a chain of bad decisions. Break one link and you live to talk about it. React well to your first bad decision and that can be the break you need. Prevention is the best approach, but once you fuck up, having some tools in your mental toolkit can save your life."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #14 June 11, 2013 Quote A good friend of mine had an Aerodyne rig with no fold sewn into the end of the chest strap. Came like that from the factory. Is this a defect? From my observation: all wide chest straps (from all manufacturers) have a fold-back, most narrow chest straps have no fold-back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #15 June 11, 2013 +1My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #16 June 12, 2013 skydiverek Quote A good friend of mine had an Aerodyne rig with no fold sewn into the end of the chest strap. Came like that from the factory. Is this a defect? From my observation: all wide chest straps (from all manufacturers) have a fold-back, most narrow chest straps have no fold-back. I should've clarified that earlier, but yes, this is what I meant. It looks like he was jumping a harness with a TY-8 chest strap, which has the fold over."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamUSN 0 #17 June 12, 2013 skydiverek Quote A good friend of mine had an Aerodyne rig with no fold sewn into the end of the chest strap. Came like that from the factory. Is this a defect? From my observation: all wide chest straps (from all manufacturers) have a fold-back, most narrow chest straps have no fold-back. Ok yup, makes sense. His is the narrow 1" strapIf you do things that don't make you appreciate life than why do them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
