johnnie 0 #1 December 13, 2002 I believe if I was scared I would Quit. THe same day I did my first dive is the same day we watched a diver leave us in a swoop pond at the WFFC in Il. I believe fear causes mistakes and respect causes good habits and safe dives. I just wanted to know by the ol' timers if this feeling is normal. Also don't get me wrong being good at your sport and knowing is also good. However there is that chance. I love the feeling of free fall and the canopy ride. I have never felt the thrill and the sense of getting something done as I do when I dive. And I guess if it was easy everyone would do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaltdan 0 #2 December 13, 2002 i am the opposite: the day i am no longer scared, i will quit. fear keeps me sharp. sincerely, dan<><>Daniel Preston <><> atairaerodynamics.com (sport) atairaerospace.com (military) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #3 December 13, 2002 I'm th eopposite. Fear allows one to know one's limitations. Fear allows me to prepare throroughly and take nothing for granted. Fear allows me to be perfectly happy flying a Nav260. I'm getting scared waiting for my next jump. I'll be petrified that morning. I'll be scared shitless on the flight up. And I'll get over the terror, and smile! My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #4 December 13, 2002 What you said. I posted this somewhere else a little bit ago, but I'll say it again. When I had about 100 jumps, I went to my instructor and told him I was still nervous/scared. He said "Good, the day you stop, is the day you should get out of the sport." It's been a little over 22 years now, and I'm still nervous on every jump. Each person has to find their own comfort level. May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casch 0 #5 December 13, 2002 I'm obviously in the minority, but I'm not scared or nervous at all. I do greatly respect the dangers, thus here is my dive plan: 1. Self Gear Check 2. 3rd party Gear Check 3. If I feel like it...another gear check. 4. Check handles 5. PRCP 6. Review Emergency Procedures in my head or out loud. 7. Board the plane, hold my handles while entering and finding a seat. 8. Review emergency Procedures and check handles on the way up. 9. Before exit, touch silver, touch main 10. DOOR!!! WHOOHOOOO I LOVE THIS SHIT!!!! 11. Screw around. 12. Check alti often. 13. Touch handle at 4.5 14. Pull at 4 15. Canopy check, enforce emergency procedured if needed. I think as long as a great respect is present, fear may be absent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #6 December 14, 2002 Quote thus here is my dive plan: 10. DOOR!!! WHOOHOOOO I LOVE THIS SHIT!!!! respect is present, fear may be absent. You do exactly what I do. For me, once the door is open, or I have to stick my head out for the spot, I'm fine. I wouldn't have made it to almost 3,000 skydives if I didn't enjoy it.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumpster 0 #7 December 14, 2002 I've got just over 100 dives, and of course I still get nervous- Maybe not as much as I used to, but nervous just the same- I personally laugh at the "No Fear" stickers - and I'd like to find a really good "Know Fear" sticker for the rear window of my truck. I"ve had some days, that I knew if I left the DZ without jumping I'd never be back. I'm glad i never left left the DZ on those days. I think as skydivers, alot of us really get to honestly "Know" our "Fear", in a way many people don't. That may be one of the ways we're a little different? Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #8 December 14, 2002 Quotethe day i am no longer scared, i will quit. fear keeps me sharp. Quote This may be the wisest thing I've heard in a long time. Props, Dan!-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cgross 1 #9 December 14, 2002 Do you wave, or do figure only your safty is important Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #10 December 14, 2002 I never wave off on solos.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Casch 0 #11 December 14, 2002 I always wave off without thinking about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pop 0 #12 December 16, 2002 QuoteI think as skydivers, alot of us really get to honestly "Know" our "Fear", in a way many people don't. http://www.menstuff.org/merchandise/merchindex.html#bumperstickers7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #13 December 17, 2002 hey dumpster dude, I have been mucking around for weeks (months) with way os making a really cool "KNOW FEAR" logo. You have to To Know your fears before you can conquer them You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Dumpster 0 #14 December 17, 2002 Check out the url that pop posted- it's got a cool "know fear" graphic ! Now I need to get it made into a a giant sticker to go in the rear window! Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Iezyka 0 #15 December 26, 2002 Why not wave off on solos? Waving off before pulling is the last chance for your friend to save his life if you or him have done something wrong. If you want to take risks, go ahead, but don´t take risks when you might hurt or kill others. It takes only 100 meters of your freefall, and the last 100 meters on my solos I don´t do that much anyway. I´m more scared to crash into the people I don´t jump with since I don´t have visual contact with these during the jump. On solos you have no references, maybe you´re sliding into someone elses airspace without noticing. Distances are closed pretty soon if you´re both sliding towards eachother. If you change your fall-rate during the jump, there is also a risk that your vertical separation could be small as well. Of course I´m careful about not jumping off too close to the skydiver before me, and of course I get a heading 90 degrees from line-of-flight. But since I´m not sure what the person after me are going to do, and having in mind I could fuck up as well, I always check the airspace above me and wave off before pulling my parachute even on solos. Maybe I overdo it, but it makes me feel more comfortable to look for the group before me when the freeflying part is over and I´m on my belly slowing down to pull. That should be time for them to pull their parachutes. I don´t want to be above them at that point. And if they are somewhere I didn´t expect, for example too far away, I´ve probably moved, and I would look extra careful for the person jumping after me before I pull. I think the risk of getting too close to other groups, solos or whatever, are sometimes not payed attention to at all. I try to make sure I know line-of-flight for every load, and take as much distance between me and the skydiver before me, so both of us feel comfortable about it. /Jessica Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
cgross 1 #9 December 14, 2002 Do you wave, or do figure only your safty is important Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #10 December 14, 2002 I never wave off on solos.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casch 0 #11 December 14, 2002 I always wave off without thinking about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #12 December 16, 2002 QuoteI think as skydivers, alot of us really get to honestly "Know" our "Fear", in a way many people don't. http://www.menstuff.org/merchandise/merchindex.html#bumperstickers7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #13 December 17, 2002 hey dumpster dude, I have been mucking around for weeks (months) with way os making a really cool "KNOW FEAR" logo. You have to To Know your fears before you can conquer them You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumpster 0 #14 December 17, 2002 Check out the url that pop posted- it's got a cool "know fear" graphic ! Now I need to get it made into a a giant sticker to go in the rear window! Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iezyka 0 #15 December 26, 2002 Why not wave off on solos? Waving off before pulling is the last chance for your friend to save his life if you or him have done something wrong. If you want to take risks, go ahead, but don´t take risks when you might hurt or kill others. It takes only 100 meters of your freefall, and the last 100 meters on my solos I don´t do that much anyway. I´m more scared to crash into the people I don´t jump with since I don´t have visual contact with these during the jump. On solos you have no references, maybe you´re sliding into someone elses airspace without noticing. Distances are closed pretty soon if you´re both sliding towards eachother. If you change your fall-rate during the jump, there is also a risk that your vertical separation could be small as well. Of course I´m careful about not jumping off too close to the skydiver before me, and of course I get a heading 90 degrees from line-of-flight. But since I´m not sure what the person after me are going to do, and having in mind I could fuck up as well, I always check the airspace above me and wave off before pulling my parachute even on solos. Maybe I overdo it, but it makes me feel more comfortable to look for the group before me when the freeflying part is over and I´m on my belly slowing down to pull. That should be time for them to pull their parachutes. I don´t want to be above them at that point. And if they are somewhere I didn´t expect, for example too far away, I´ve probably moved, and I would look extra careful for the person jumping after me before I pull. I think the risk of getting too close to other groups, solos or whatever, are sometimes not payed attention to at all. I try to make sure I know line-of-flight for every load, and take as much distance between me and the skydiver before me, so both of us feel comfortable about it. /Jessica Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
