Sonic 0 #26 November 30, 2002 QuoteBuy PD chutes I disagree - PD make good gear, but they are not the only canopies that fly.----------------------------------- It's like something out of that twilighty show about that zone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #27 December 1, 2002 QuoteNot everyone will end up flying elliptical canopies, but nobody will end up flying a Manta. there is a couple at skydive chicago that jumps manta's regularly... Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #28 December 1, 2002 QuoteBuy PD chutes. Everybody told they're the best talk about PD snobbery at it's finest....get fricken real...try other parachutes manufacturers and you will realize that PD yes makes good chutes....but so does alot of company's....I owned a PISA hornet...my PD snob DZ that I used to jump at said it'd be shit...guess what...best canopy I owned....now I jump an icarus safire...was told it's a real piece of shit....guess what...one of the best canopy's I've ever flown... a ton of fun with mongo power... I am not dissing PD..I learned under sabre's...and navigators..loved em...but there is other choices out there....a cobalt is my next must have....... Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruffles 0 #29 December 1, 2002 OK easy cha-cha, I have no clue what the best chutes are , I have like 35 jumps. Everybody at my DZ said they were awesome. Geez... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #30 December 1, 2002 Dude....this is just a reminder that you should not believe everything you hear....experience everything....I was bashing you...I was bashing your DZ instructors for having a closed mind and brainwashing yet another wave of new students.... Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #31 December 1, 2002 and my names NOT Cha Cha....it's MARC or MEDIC Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #32 December 1, 2002 You'll get opinions here. That's all they are, no different from the opinions of your DZ staff. I have learned over the years when to fight and when to get along. If you are stuck at a DZ where all the staff is brand loyal to whatever, and the whatever isn't uncomfortable or dangerous, you might consider going along. Whether it's Cobalt vs. PD, Mirage vs. Wings, if the staff will treat you better and teach you because they are snobby about what gear to get, you may consider getting that gear. You will need their input about lots of stuff as you progress. So even if your staff is ill-informed, and considers that everything other than "their" brand is a deathtrap, taking their advice about brand might make your life easier. They are wrong, though, because almost all the available gear (all of it, as far as I know) is safe and reliable. That said, if I was teaching you to shoot pistol, I would recommend a Glock because I'm a Glock armorer. If you get a Kimber and it malfunctions, I'm limited in how much I can help you. If you want feedback about canopy control I can tell you about flying a Spectre (and about crashing one) if you get a nine-cell my input won't be as valuable because I have almost no 9 cell experience. Good luck! I tell you, Square One is the place at Perris cause you can rent and demo just about everything and choose based on what is comfortable and effective for you. Chow! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaltdan 0 #33 December 1, 2002 just thought i would point out that there are an increasing amount of dropzones that are training students on modern "elliptical" canopies. there are a plurality of elliptical canopies specificaly designed to have suitable flying traits for begineers. safe loadings for students range from .8-to 1.2 depending on the design and what measuring method the manufacturers uses to determine area. we noticed a gap in available canopies for student training quite a while ago, and have just finished testing on a 220-240 cobalt. sincerely, dan<><> www.extremefly.comDaniel Preston <><> atairaerodynamics.com (sport) atairaerospace.com (military) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drenaline 0 #34 December 2, 2002 Whateva canopy you choose please make sure you get a proper wingload for your skills, for that you should ask a skilled canopy pilot or you instructor to see you fly. Answers can vary from bad, so-so, newbie, good and excelent (if you get excelent take it with a grain of salt and ask somebody else). Once you know what wingload you will need you will be a step closer to choosing canopy size. Quote and my names NOT Cha Cha....it's MARC or MEDIC or skymedic HISPA 21 www.panamafreefall.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
