How to track 90 degree off jump run line?

[slotperfect 7]

1) I am not a freeflyer
2) I have seen the program
3) I did not intend to "sell" our DZ's way of doing things, rather my point was that following an established order that creates sensible separation serves having anough airspace to create necessary separation for deployment.

I have no energy on either one (ff first or ff last). I have seen it done both ways. To my knowledge, we have had no incidents @ Raeford with the exit order I listed. I will bring it up with our S&TA since you have now piqued my interest!!? Thanks.

Arrive Safely

John

[kallend 2,027]

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1) I am not a freeflyer
2) I have seen the program
3) I did not intend to "sell" our DZ's way of doing things, rather my point was that following an established order that creates sensible separation serves having anough airspace to create necessary separation for deployment.

I have no energy on either one (ff first or ff last). I have seen it done both ways. To my knowledge, we have had no incidents @ Raeford with the exit order I listed. I will bring it up with our S&TA since you have now piqued my interest!!? Thanks.

If you just want a simple rule that you don't have to think about, the Arizona order makes the most sense since it is kind of "fail safe". If you are prepared to analyze the scenarios a little, then you can certainly make adjustments: for example, if you have light uppers, a 2 way FF, a 16 way RW and a 2 way RW on an Otter load, putting the FF pair out first might make sense because the climb out time for a 16 way is long enough to guarantee that there will be adequate separation. OTOH, you probably would not want to do this if the uppers were strong.

[Zenister 0]

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But can they track faster than the belly fliers can track? In my experience, the average belly flier can usually outtrack the average freeflier (there are exceptions, of course, Olav and Rook can outtrack most people).

IM(limited)O thus far, the ffers seem to track better than the belly fliers ive gone out with..the FF crowd at SkydiveAZ does regular dedicated tracking dives and on the occasions when belly fliers join us, we ussually have to slow it down or we lose them quickly. (with the exception of some of the skygods)

there are several good landmarks at Eloy for tracking 90 deg, but in larger formations its pretty much track and scan like a mad man to make sure your not passing over anyone.

disclaimer: not intended to start a "my discipline is better than your discipline arguement, just and observation based on lots (% wise) of tracking dives

[Ducky 0]

My DZ goes
1. Largest RW formation to smallest solos last
2. Largest FF to smallest solso last
3. AFF
4. Tandems

High pulling solos talk to the loader and decide case by case.

kwak

Sometimes your the bug, sometimes your the windshield. Sometimes your the hammer sometimes your the nail. Question is Hun, Do you wanna get hammered or do you wanna get nailed?????

[bobsoutar 0]

[How does that work in a freefly big-way? ]

It doesn't. Freefly big ways are the same as RW big ways - you have to allow them extra seperation time out of the door because they will all be tracking in different directions.

[billvon 2,998]

>the ffers seem to track better than the belly fliers ive gone out with . . .

"Track better" is tough to define. If your criteria is higher speeds during tracking, FFers will generally win. If the criteria is greater distance covered, RWers will generally win. It's a survival skill for them, and their usual equipment (booties) helps them track farter, although their vertical speed may be much lower than a FFer.