skycat 0 #26 August 10, 2002 Here is a good example of why line twists spin this is from the video. If you look you can see that the right soft link is slightly lower than the left one which is causing the left handed spin. I know Derek (hook) has explained this several times on how to stop spinning line twists and how to get out of them. I'm just being to lazy at the moment to go and look for the post.Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #27 August 10, 2002 basically what I remember reading about that is to twist the risers in the other direction with your haands, get the links even, then kick out, not sure how long that would take though, and if I would take the time to try it, things happen way fast under those canopies (as you know ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #28 August 13, 2002 30 years ago, a guy named J. Scott Hamilton invented a possible solution to this difficult cutaway problem. Like many of us, he was getting really tired of dumping his reserve because of hard pulls on his 4-pin main ripcord. One day Mr. Hamilton tried wrapping his knee under his elbow and using his leg muscles to supplement his arm muscles. Since leg muscles are much bigger than arm muscles, it solved his problem. I wonder, would Mr. Hamilton's old solution solve our current problem? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #29 August 13, 2002 Quotebasically what I remember reading about that is to twist the risers in the other direction with your haands, get the links even, then kick out, not sure how long that would take though, and if I would take the time to try it, things happen way fast under those canopies (as you know ) Harness shift to make the links even. It doesn't take long at all to shift in the harness to stop the spin, then kick out of the line twists. If you don't have time to harness shift, you are pulling too low. I have used this technique to recover from spinning line twists under my VX-60 at 3.1:1, 8 or 9 times, no cutaways from spinning line twists in 480 jumps under that canopy. Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #30 August 15, 2002 Quote...8 or 9 times, no cutaways from spinning line twists in 480 jumps under that canopy. Hook Good for you man! I may not have thousands of jumps yet but I understand the physics of small eliptical canopies... And a part of me will never beleive that cutting away from diving line twists should be a normal occurance... If you are cutting away for this reason on a regular basis, then there is something wrong either with your gear, packing or deployment attitude! Having said that, faced with the situation mentioned, I would likely try pulling my way as far up the risers as I could and go for silver. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowflake 0 #31 August 15, 2002 Ok I'll make an ass of myself and post before reading any responses. I say if your gonna jump an elliptical you should have hard inserts in your risers and that should solve the problem before it starts other then that I'll read on and learn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kurt 0 #32 August 27, 2002 A properly mantaind system helps. Disconect 3 ring. Make the risers flexible. And clean the cables. No soft housings. And hard housings in the risers, for the end of the cables. And yes, if its go's wrong. Do something. Even pull the reserve on the end. All the guy's and girls with the hooke knife. I think most of them had no spinning malfunction with an eleptical. It go's realy FAST! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites