Remster 30 #1 June 4, 2002 Hi all,I've heard there was a Pilatus crash in Germany this weekend, but without any more info then that. Has anyone heard anything about this? The last few weeks have been bad enough without this one being true.....RemiRemsterMuff 914 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drenaline 0 #2 June 4, 2002 I think you might get more answers if you post this in the talkback forum."Life is full of danger, so why be afraid?"drenaline Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #3 June 4, 2002 I think I'd get more replyes in Talkback, I doubt the replies would be more informed.... Plus, here the post wont get burried with boobies and bad jokes...RemsterMuff 914 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grosfion 0 #4 June 4, 2002 You get also a answer here.The plane Pilatus Porter D-FEAR crashed on the w/e in Breitscheid. No one go hurt.Hope more infos coming soon..bluesMarcus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjasantos 0 #5 June 4, 2002 More info on this at:http://mypage.bluewin.ch/aviationworld/pc6/#NEWShttp://mypage.bluewin.ch/aviationworld/pc6/history/748.htmhttp://213.61.31.33/main.php?ses_viewmode=37&dir=2&content_id=23591(includes photo of the crashed Porter)http://www.d-fear.de/http://www.skydive-breitscheid.de/... confirmed that no one was seriously injuried...Blue Skies!Mario SantosMatrix FS (Portugal) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #6 June 5, 2002 Thx for the feedback guys...RemsterMuff 914 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #7 June 5, 2002 Seatbelts Fastened.Helmets (including camera helmets) ON, clipped or fastened.No yelling on take off. Let the pilot concentrate.Chris Schindlerwww.DiverDriver.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #8 June 5, 2002 >No yelling on take off.ever been on a crew load??? how come they can yell??why jump when you can fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 June 5, 2002 The one that pisses me off is a particular yell after takeoff that terminates in the participants hitting the overhead with their hands. Whack! About 5 seconds after takeoff.Don't they have any idea that can REALLY wake somebody up?quadehttp://futurecam.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prost 0 #10 June 5, 2002 I can usually stay awake till after the take off because I film the takeoff for tandems.William Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caseyusa 0 #11 June 6, 2002 all of those websites would have been helpful if i could speak German?---It's like a farmer, out-standing in his field. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #12 June 7, 2002 of course... and I bet you'd volunteer to translate the USA reports in german is you spoke german?RemsterMuff 914 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jurgencamps 0 #13 June 13, 2002 What can you do to prevent these kind of accidents with a Pilatus Porter? Ask a pilot how you can see if the trim is set correctly. You can notice it immediately when you look at the tail of the airplane. So never get in a Porter when the trim is not set correctly.CU Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjasantos 0 #14 June 13, 2002 Casey,I don't either understand a word of German language... but I use AltaVista translator.If you'd like you can do the same at:http://babelfish.altavista.com/With this tool you can get an approximate translation of text or even of a web page... just follow the instructions at that link.Better than this will be difficult... when using Internet, in such different languages we have to manage ourselves... otherwise, your salary would not be enough to pay an official translator.Blue Skies!Mario SantosMatrix FS (Portugal) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #15 June 13, 2002 Ok......where did the trim conversation come from? I can't read German. Is that what the reports (stories) are saying? That it was not trimmed correctly for takeoff? Please expand your post.Chris SchindlerD-19012ATPwww.DiverDriver.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #16 June 13, 2002 I can't read German either, but I can read French, and none of the French stories mentioned anything about trim.-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #17 June 13, 2002 Ok....wait....are we talking about the Porter crash in Germany or the one in Belgium? Or are there french articles about the German crash? I'm confused.Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jurgencamps 0 #18 June 14, 2002 Sorry folks, my fault. The German article did not mention a trim problem. But the description of the accident (nose of the plane goes vertical, pilot struggles to get the plane back to horizontal) fits very well the description of a problem with the trim. So maybe it was not the trim, but nevertheless it is still usefull to know how to check yourself the trim of the Porter Pilatus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil 0 #19 June 16, 2002 if it's of any interest, out of first hand info. the pilot was not a regular porter pilot and had still the landing trim on takeoff. this led to the nose to go straight up with no chance of correcting it and getting is back down. 50 meter up and "bang" back on the planet. I guess we all check our gear before we jump, hope the pilots do it too.blue onesphil Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
