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Amazon 7
QuoteMe, me, me. Can I watch, please, please..........?
Sparky (I used to be a Para Medic)
PS: I'll bring the Ice Cream!
Hey I will jump ANYTHING into the water... I LOVE water jumps. I have a StratoStar and a Strato Cloud I plan on taking into the water at Lost PRairie...IF I can find a PC or a PAP I would do one of those as well.
I did a T-10 jump last May and.. yeah.. I dont remember a 35' round as coming down THAT FAST in the 70's
slug 1
QuoteQuoteMe, me, me. Can I watch, please, please..........?
Sparky (I used to be a Para Medic)
PS: I'll bring the Ice Cream!
Hey I will jump ANYTHING into the water... I LOVE water jumps. I have a StratoStar and a Strato Cloud I plan on taking into the water at Lost PRairie...IF I can find a PC or a PAP I would do one of those as well.
I did a T-10 jump last May and.. yeah.. I dont remember a 35' round as coming down THAT FAST in the 70's
Hi Amazon
Uh Uh......70's-2000's. Thats 30 years @ 2 lbs/yr That's a lot of extra "suspended weight". Or it might be that those rounds always landed like that and we just forgot
. Or the rigs are just old
"Back in the day"
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There were 2 diferent kind of frenchie's (boots). Maybe it's time for someone to design a senior citizen model to help us older folks land those old tired canopies.
R.I.P.
AirCav 0
I only picked up 1 pound per year over the last 30years. Now I"m a whopping 150lbs.
I jumped my wife's old short-lined Pap last month and did kinda wonder how it would be in tennis shoes instead of "Frenchies."
Stood it up in the peas though.( just like riding a bike)
I jumped my wife's old short-lined Pap last month and did kinda wonder how it would be in tennis shoes instead of "Frenchies."
Stood it up in the peas though.( just like riding a bike)
GW685,D3888,C5052,SCS843
QuoteGood God Airtwardo, maybe it's just the
angle of the picture but that landing
area in the second picture looks awfully
close to trailers, aircraft, trees, powerlines,
lawn chars, toys, etc. not to mention that
it looks rock hard.
***
Couple more pics of 'ye old landing area'
Note the slung reserve and open chest strap...
Remember when you needed a 'Packing Stake'?
~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
A good shot of a P.C.
And my rendition of a PLF...
Looks funky, but as always...
I walked away!
Tough..Nuts...or Lucky~
I wonder which!
~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
And my rendition of a PLF...
Looks funky, but as always...
I walked away!
Tough..Nuts...or Lucky~
I wonder which!
~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
murrays 0
QuoteRemember when you needed a 'Packing Stake'?
And someone to give you tension! Yes, I do.
The first thing you could show a student was how to give tension. It was a good way to get them involved and explain the process of doing the four line check, flaking, etc. Boy, it's been a long time since I packed a round. I don't know if I could do it properly anymore.
--
Murray
"No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey
Murray
"No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey
QuoteAnd someone to give you tension!
***
Hummmm...
Never heard it call THAT before!
Ohhhh!
You mean PACKING tension!!!
~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
QuoteUs little boy's are now big boy's and the big boy's are "filling out".
I don't mind putting on the years it's the lb's the lb's we're doomed we're all doomed
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Hey Slug...speak for yourself!
I was 225 in college and I'm still 225!
Of course the C. G. has changed quite a bit!
~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
slug 1
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Hey Slug...speak for yourself!
I was 225 in college and I'm still 225!
Of course the C. G. has changed quite a bit!
Hey Slug...speak for yourself!
I was 225 in college and I'm still 225!
Of course the C. G. has changed quite a bit!
225# Damn that was hardcore. Small airplane big body, but who's going to tell you no. Let me guess you were first out
I think the change in C.G. is called middle age "shift".
Arch? I've got a built in air deflector
R.I.P.
murrays 0
QuoteQuoteAnd someone to give you tension!
***
Hummmm...
Never heard it call THAT before!
Ohhhh!
You mean PACKING tension!!!
You're thinking of "relieving your tension"....
--
Murray
"No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey
Murray
"No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey
jonstark 8
Remember calling out... " A little tension over here!?"
Great way for a student to get acquainted with the sport and those involved. Too bad it isn't quite as necessary to interact with all levels of jumpers as a student now...
jon
Great way for a student to get acquainted with the sport and those involved. Too bad it isn't quite as necessary to interact with all levels of jumpers as a student now...
jon
steve1 5
QuoteQuoteMe, me, me. Can I watch, please, I have a StratoStar and a Strato Cloud I plan on taking into the water at Lost PRairie...IF I can find a PC or a PAP I would do one of those as well.
Hey Jeane,....I bought that boat I was talking about. In fact I just pulled it out of the river a few hours ago and love it. I'll bring it to Lost Prairie if you need a pick-up crew. If you talk to Fred, ask him if he still has his old Red Devil P.C. Back in the 70's he and I had the only two solid-red para-commanders in the state.
Now that I'm forty lbs. heavier than I was back then, a water jump does make since. (And yes it is all muscle!)...Steve1
skybill 22
Hi Dude,
To start with, I really like the skull with the "twisted" cig!! About the P.C. Read all the posts and everyone has a lot of good info. Big thing was that when it came out, we had a 24' dia. canopy that came down "slower" than a 28' dia. canopy!! Stand up landings were the rule and sure beat the hell out of crashes!!!! Through this whole thread though, of all the mods and hybrid configs. (MK-II, Comp. P.C., Russian P.C., etc.) nobody mentioned the MK-69 MOD-O Command-O-Flex-Cross-Wing!!!!!!!!!! Now that was the ultimate High performance "round" canopy!!! There was an article or two about it in Scare-a-chutist mag. and I believe Gene Hunnel's " DZ-USA rag. Anyway, I believe it would have gone into production and run circles around everything in the air at "that" time but the project engineer blew all his R&D $$ at the DZ. BTW, without looking in my archives, I believe that article was in the April(Fool) issue of Scare-a-chutist!!!! It was still fun though, just like reading this thread!!
After being around this great sport for 40 years now, it's fun to see how everyday dropzone events that we used to take for granted in the old daze have evolved into "bonfire legends!!" I love this sport!!!!
To start with, I really like the skull with the "twisted" cig!! About the P.C. Read all the posts and everyone has a lot of good info. Big thing was that when it came out, we had a 24' dia. canopy that came down "slower" than a 28' dia. canopy!! Stand up landings were the rule and sure beat the hell out of crashes!!!! Through this whole thread though, of all the mods and hybrid configs. (MK-II, Comp. P.C., Russian P.C., etc.) nobody mentioned the MK-69 MOD-O Command-O-Flex-Cross-Wing!!!!!!!!!! Now that was the ultimate High performance "round" canopy!!! There was an article or two about it in Scare-a-chutist mag. and I believe Gene Hunnel's " DZ-USA rag. Anyway, I believe it would have gone into production and run circles around everything in the air at "that" time but the project engineer blew all his R&D $$ at the DZ. BTW, without looking in my archives, I believe that article was in the April(Fool) issue of Scare-a-chutist!!!! It was still fun though, just like reading this thread!!
After being around this great sport for 40 years now, it's fun to see how everyday dropzone events that we used to take for granted in the old daze have evolved into "bonfire legends!!" I love this sport!!!!
SCR-2034, SCS-680
III%,
Deli-out
III%,
Deli-out
skybill 22
10-4 Sparky!!
Yes Ed Vickry did develope the Para-Commander as you say and the part about Jerry B. bringing back the "ascending -Lemoigne or what-ever canopy" is correct. When Ed left Pioneer and came to work at Irvin Aerospace in N.C. as the VP of Engineering I was the Lead Rigger in the loft. We got to talking and of course we got int the development of the P.C. He told how they took this french ascending canopy and configured crown lines on it to be able to pack and deploy it. Then he said that he still had that original canopy in his archives!!! Well, we got him to bring it to the loft and we got a good look at it! Too much fun. When he moved out to Ca. to be the head honcho of Irvin's Engineering dept., I boxed the P.C. back up and gave it to him. He's retired now but lives somewhere near "yall." give him a ring and maybe you can get him to drag it out again. That canopy is a treasure!!
Yes Ed Vickry did develope the Para-Commander as you say and the part about Jerry B. bringing back the "ascending -Lemoigne or what-ever canopy" is correct. When Ed left Pioneer and came to work at Irvin Aerospace in N.C. as the VP of Engineering I was the Lead Rigger in the loft. We got to talking and of course we got int the development of the P.C. He told how they took this french ascending canopy and configured crown lines on it to be able to pack and deploy it. Then he said that he still had that original canopy in his archives!!! Well, we got him to bring it to the loft and we got a good look at it! Too much fun. When he moved out to Ca. to be the head honcho of Irvin's Engineering dept., I boxed the P.C. back up and gave it to him. He's retired now but lives somewhere near "yall." give him a ring and maybe you can get him to drag it out again. That canopy is a treasure!!
SCR-2034, SCS-680
III%,
Deli-out
III%,
Deli-out
Ive just decided to sell the Russian PC (black and yellow Comrade Boris) I recently bought. I'll list it in the gear for sale DZ.com
Bill Cole D-41
Bill Cole D-41
CazmoDee 3
Pioneer, Pioneer come and tell me.
How can I get a special color P.C.
Without buying a twenty-five canopy lot.
I want my design so badly.
But my bank account looks sadly.
Won't you please put something in the pot.
So I'm taking up a collection.
Buying my P.C. section by section.
So far I've bought a connector link.
If things keep going at this rate.
Date of completion should not be too great.
Twenty years should do it, I should think.
P.I., P.I. come to save me.
Sold me a special color P.C.
Its a beautiful black and blue.
Made a down wind crash and burn.
Guess that I will never learn.
Now, my body's black and blue too.
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My Dad is sending me his old Paracomander.
It's black and blue! I can't wait.
How can I get a special color P.C.
Without buying a twenty-five canopy lot.
I want my design so badly.
But my bank account looks sadly.
Won't you please put something in the pot.
So I'm taking up a collection.
Buying my P.C. section by section.
So far I've bought a connector link.
If things keep going at this rate.
Date of completion should not be too great.
Twenty years should do it, I should think.
P.I., P.I. come to save me.
Sold me a special color P.C.
Its a beautiful black and blue.
Made a down wind crash and burn.
Guess that I will never learn.
Now, my body's black and blue too.
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My Dad is sending me his old Paracomander.
It's black and blue! I can't wait.
I'm behind the bar at Sloppy Joe's....See ya in the Keys!
Muff 4313
Muff 4313
racerman 0
I just bought a MK I PC (churchwindow) and need something to put it in. Anybody got anything for sale?
You can keep that Liver & Onion ice cream
stuff all to yourself!
~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
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