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Jessica

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What's your dytter/pro-track flatline set for?
a) Hey stupid, wanna pull sometime?
or
b) OMG SHIT SHIT RESERVE
For me (since I like to reach for the hackey at about 3500), the former would be probably around 2500, the latter around 1600 or so. I'm not sure which is smarter. Right now I have it set for 2K, and heard it flatline this weekend while I was under a deploying canopy. It got me wondering (after the self-flagellation for pulling low) what I'd have done if I'd heard that in freefall. I think I need to set it a little higher or a little lower. And of course, my audible is ONLY a backup. I don't rely on it.
Thoughts?

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I have mine set for 2,000ft. If I am not under canopy whenever it goes off I am going to deploy immediately. If I can't for some reason (someone direcly above me) I will deploy my reserve at or under 1,200 ft. because I have a Spectre that snivels and I want to be sure there is not a cypres fire leading to a canopy wrap.

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Don't have one but when I get it am gonna put it at 4000fts. its not the pull time but its close enough for me to break a formation, track and deploy in open space (at about 3k), in case am having a blast and forget to look at the altimeter.
Can it be set at that altitude?
"Life is full of danger, so why be afraid?"
drenaline

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Oh cool, I didn't knew that, it would be 4k, 3k and 2k. After that if there is something wrong I want to be totally focused on my emergency procedures that I think I will not hear that beep.
"Life is full of danger, so why be afraid?"
drenaline

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I got mine at 4500, 3500, and 2000. This is as I usually break off at 4500 and am going for the pull at 3500. I did have each of these set 500 feet higher (to give me a bit of warning before breaking off), but I found I did everything 500 higher, so I brought it down.
Let's go play chicken with a planet !!

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My flatline is set at 1800 feet - low enough that if I hear it and haven't dumped I can get my main out, high enough that I still have a couple hundred feet to deal with whatever might be happening before I hit my hard deck.
First and second alerts vary depending on what I'm doing. The first one I set for 100' above whatever breakoff altitude the group has decided on (or when I've been told to turn and track on a big way); the second one I usually set for 1000' - 1500' below the first one (or whatever pull altitude I've been assigned on a big way).
pull & flare,
lisa
"Try not. Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda sez

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mine is at 4 3 and 2. if i freefly i reset it to 5 3 and 2, simply to have time to flip to belly and track. i like having more time in that situation. if i ever heard my 2 warning while still turning points, etc, no questions asked i would go straight to reserve. between hearing and reaction time... no chances there. my main takes a while to open in comparison to other mains, i'd rather see my yellow reserve open at 1.5 K than still see a snivel at 1 K. just my opinion.... there is no excuse however for lack of altitude awareness...
Stacy
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A merger of a) and b):
c) if the slider ain't on the way down, chop it - 2,000 feet.
Have heard it about 3 times on a Sabre-2 170 demo that I had last month - would pull at 3K and have the Pro-Track flatline just as the snivel ended and the slider snapped down. Rather unsettling.
As for the first two settings, dependant on the dive. If it's a 2 way sit - 4.5/3.5. If it's a solo sit - 5.5/4.0 (if I am a solo sit, nothing but students and tandems will be following me - so I like to pull high and play). If it's belly fly, 4-way with experienced - 4.0/3.0, if it's 4-way with low timers or a belly fly group of 5 or more, 4.5/3.0 (sometimes need that extra time to track the frig outta Dodge)

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For RW, I have mine set for 4K, 3K, and 1.5K. For tandem videos, I set it for 5.5K, 4K, and 1.5K. I set my flatline for 1.5K as a "must get reserve out now" warning. The only time I've ever heard it in freefall was after my cutaway on Tuesday.

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6,000 breakoff (I'm new). 4500 pull, 2500 oh shit. That dytter is great. Last fall during a 3 way (before I had a dytter) I stayed in a track for too long. Coming out of the track I glanced at my wrist Alti-2 to see the needle approaching 2,900! Much too low for my experience level. Nice to have that extra reminder "hey moron stop tracking and pull".

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I have an old time out so I can only set one of the altitudes. I set it for 4000 do give me a wake up call. Below that all the bells and whistles it can throw in would be appreciated. I just wish you could set it not to go off below a certain altitude so I wouldn't hear it as I am coming in to land.
William

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The last 2 warnings are at 3 and 1.6. The first is set depending on if it's a big way, 5 or 4 way or less, 4-3.5. I've only heard the flatline once in which I sniveled into it. And yes, it was a low pull in order to clear airspace on a bigway. I'm usually in the saddle by 2.

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Mine is 5000 breakoff, 3200 deploy, 1700 harddeck. People that have the flatline set to "Pull now!" worry me, as there is nothing after that to indicate harddeck, and under a malfunctioning canopy it is easy to loose altitude awareness while fighting it. If I hear my flatline I stop thinking and pull all the other handles, irrelevant of how close I am to sorting out the mess above.
Please think about it. I have met several people who have spent some time listening to their higher altitude flatline while fighting a snivelling main. All have lived so far, but they do reluctantly admit that after the audible went flatline they had no real idea how low they were until the canopy opened and they looked at their alti. All have changed their flatline to harddeck now.
Rich

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I'm a 4-Way Formation Skydiver and our team jumps, although Pro-Track has got 3 alerts, I just set 2: 1st and 2nd at 4000 ft, which is break off time (end of work) and the remaining one at 2000 ft. When the alert comes at 4000 ft, that is mandatory: get out of there and do 180º, flat track and open at 2500 ft.
Mario Santos
Matrix FS (Portugal)

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Still being rather new to the sport, I use my Pro-Dytter strictly as a backup. To avoid becoming dependent on the dytter, I have set the warnings so that I normally don't act on the dytter signals.
The first signal will therefore be set slightly below breakoff altitude; should I hear the signal not having initiated breakoff, I will note that I made an error and then breakoff immediately.
The second signal is set just below pull level. I will normally hear the signal as my canopy snivels, and by listening to exactly where in the opening sequence the beeping starts, I can judge whether my actual pull altitude was off in any direction. Same thing here, should it beep before I have pulled I can just pull right away and still not be dangerously low.
For the flat line (siren) warning I apply the same philosophy; should there be a malfunction I expect to have initiated emergency procedures before the alarm sounds, but if not it tells me that now would be a really good time to get that other canopy out. Should I not have pulled my main at that time, for some reason, I hope that I will have the cool to go straight to reserve.
It seems that few people use their dytter this way. It is a slight inconvenience that if others in a jump break off exactly at their dytter signal I will not be perfectly synchronized with them.
Any comments, please?

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I should also add that if you are too dependent on the pro-track, it may be time to do a few jumps without it to sharpen your altitude awareness. Also, that flatline, at least for me, is a warning that it is too late to cutaway if under bad chute. And for me, I'm usually in the saddle around 2. YMMV.

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>First and second alerts vary depending on what I'm doing. The first one I set
>for 100' above whatever breakoff altitude the group has decided on . . .
I seldom use an audible, but when I do, I usually set it for 500 feet _below_ breakoff. That way, if I hear it, I know it's past time to go - we missed the breakoff altitude. I do _not_ want to train myself to hear the beep then go, because there will come a day when there's no beep.
-bill von

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Usually 4000, 3000, 1500. (Breakoff/ stop tracking /whoa thats getting low!)
Depends on the jump and the people I am with, occasionly we have breakoff down at 3500 which can make things interesting for an 8way. It is not a nice experience trying to dodge people at 2k, nor is it particularly good hearing your final warning while still deploying your main.

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