high altitude jumps no oxygen

[Tonto 1]

"Haven't people climbed Mt. Everest (30,000 ft) without supplemental oxygen??"

Well, just under 28 000 really, and taking months to aclimatise vs the 30 min ride up.

The two are not comparable. I've only climbed to 20 000ft, but if we're put on a hold at 16000 ASL at the DZ, everyone's hypoxic in 2 min, myself included. No time to aclimatise...

t

It's the year of the Pig.

[quade 4]

29,035 according to http://www.extremescience.com/HighestElevation.htm

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[mjosparky 4]

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I'll give you a 15% chance.

I give you less then 15% chance of getting out of the plane.
Sparky

My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

[chuteless 1]

I'm amazed that so many jumpers think they can go as high as they want without consequences. One guy wrote to the Canadian Military, and said " I scrounged some equipment" didnt even elaborate on where from, and he expected the military to guide him with something he likely found in the scrapyard.

Jumpers should take an HAI course ( high altitude Indoctrination ) and find out the problems that exist in going high without the proper equipment.

I doubt that anyone has ever climbed Everest without some supllemental oxygen. Its far too strenuous to climb into air that thin over the prolonged period of time it would take.


Wake up people....or you'll die for your unpreparedness.

[quade 4]

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I doubt that anyone has ever climbed Everest without some supllemental oxygen. Its far too strenuous to climb into air that thin over the prolonged period of time it would take.

It HAS been done -- more than once.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/everest/history/firstwoo2.html

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[chuteless 1]

Thats a very interesting article Quade, but can you imagine a jumper trying to function with eyes that seem like they dont belong to his head, gasping for air.

I trained the Special Forces in Ecuador in the capital city of Quito, 9500 ft ASL, and when I put my gear on, I was so exhausted I couldnt do the snaps up without a long pause to get my breath.


The soldiers who lived in that environment were used to it, and seemed to have no problems breathing. The second time I was there, we jumped at Salinas, on the Pacific coast...no breathing problems there.

I still believe that far too many jumpers think they are invincible and are prepared to do stupid things that may cost them their lives.

Its like some people dont believe in safety.

Bill Cole

[quade 4]

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I still believe that far too many jumpers think they are invincible and are prepared to do stupid things that may cost them their lives.

Agreed. I don't think anyone resonable would ever suggest that a jump at those altitudes should be attempted without oxygen.

That said, very strange stuff happens sometimes. It's a great big world.

I've said before that I'm amazed by the guys that climb mountains without O2 and it is amazing -- but by no means recommended.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[Tonto 1]

I stand corrected!

t

It's the year of the Pig.

[Ralf 0]

I have made several jumps from 30K feet. By the way, it is cold up there. Usually about -40 degrees. Add wind chill and the effect is significant!

A planned jump with onboard oxygen (w/o bailout bottles), for a healthy fit trained person, maybe over 35K, but very risky!

Unplanned jump with explosive decompression with open door and needing to put on your rig, I think unlikely at 24K, and the odds getting quickly poorer with altitude.

Good luck,
Ralf