ahdz 0 #1 June 20, 2005 Hi I have a Para Commander that is an "R Mod " according to the data panel - what does this mean versus the Mark 1 and Mark 2 that I am more familiar with? D of M is 1975 Thanks for any help that anyone can give Regards Andrew Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norman8791 0 #2 June 21, 2005 There was also a competition model, which was called the Mark 3, but I don't know about the R mod, does it say if it is a Mark 1 on it, Norm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #3 June 21, 2005 Pioneer built a few 19-foot Paracommanders for woman in the mid-seventies, but I don't recall what they called it. Could be this . . . NickD BASE 194 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrochute 2 #4 June 21, 2005 could it possibly be an RW Model?(the one they constructed out of F111?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #5 June 21, 2005 Didn't the RW model have shorter lines as well as being slightly smaller diameter?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #6 June 22, 2005 Quotecould it possibly be an RW Model?(the one they constructed out of F111?) I think it was 1.5 ripstop. F-111 did not come out until about March of 1979. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #7 June 22, 2005 I think the RW model had the lighter suspension lines. What do the suspension lines look like on this one? Do they have a black stripe on them? I have never heard of the R-mod either. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #8 June 22, 2005 QuoteDidn't the RW model have shorter lines as well as being slightly smaller diameter? My RWPC has 325# suspension lines 18' or so in length. Its dimensions are the same as my MK-1s. I think my Sierra is also 24', and it has cascaded lines, something lighter than 550#. I haven't measured my UT-15 (commie original to the Russian PC from Pioneer), but expect it to be as peculiar as are many things Russian. I am not familiar with an "R Mod," but that does not mean much in and of itself. I'll look it up in my PC manual, and ask some of the folks that have more PC experience than do I. Blue skies, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahdz 0 #9 June 27, 2005 Master Panel pic attached Thanks for your thoughts so far Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeFB2764 0 #10 June 27, 2005 The "R" seems to be ® as in registered trademark. Could be the registration trademark for "Paracommander". If that were the case, still not sure what the "mod" is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,354 #11 June 27, 2005 I agree with this. By '75 interest in the PC was waning substantially. It was about this time that they came out with the RW PC; I know little of this canopy. The 'MOD' may have been their way of ensuring that the patents still covered their range of PC canopies. My $.02 worth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #12 June 28, 2005 Nope. My 1983 ParaGear catalog lists an F-111 RW PC that fits in a Stato Star container. There was a light blue one on our DZ that was real purty.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,439 #13 June 28, 2005 Well, 1983 is after 1979. Could be they changed the fabric when F111 came out. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #14 June 29, 2005 QuoteNope. My 1983 ParaGear catalog lists an F-111 RW PC that fits in a Stato Star container. There was a light blue one on our DZ that was real purty. The picture of the ID panel on the one we are discussing shows DOM as 1975. Since F-111 was not around then, I would say "yep". The first RWPC's were made of 1.5 rip stop. As Wendy said, they may have changed over by 1983. But I have a feeling they were not selling many PC’s of any version by that time. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juma 0 #15 June 30, 2005 Registered Trademark. There were 7 types of PC's manufactured: MK1, 24' dia 0-10 cfm 2.2 oz taffeta type III 550 suspension lines, 21'-22.5' line length rate of descent 15.7 fps @ 190 lbs first year made 1963, MK2 similar to MK1 but less drive first year made 1968, Competition 'Comp PC', also similar to MK1 but shortlined to 18.5 ft higher turn rate and higher rate of descent first year made 1971, 23' and 27' Russian PC whole different story on these, 28' MK1 (for the fat boys), and the RW PC first made in 1975 and probably the best of the bunch. Low canopy weight, low pack volume, low rate of descent (14.5 FPS @ 190 LBS) 0 cfm 1.5 oz ripstop 375 lb type II lines 18.5'. by then everyone wanted squares. The 70's was a transitionl period for jumping and we all 'modified' our gear for one reason or another so there's no telling what you'll run across in some old dud's garage or storage shed. We butcherd everything. I've owned a 27' Russian and currently have a MK1, MK2, a custom made MK1 and and RW PC with Pioneer 3 and 4 pin containers and curved chest reserves all in mint condition. Too old and too fat to jump them now but I still like to wear them around the house and during sex. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #16 June 30, 2005 Hi Juma Got any picture's ......... of just the gear R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #17 June 30, 2005 QuoteToo old and too fat to jump them now but I still like to wear them around the house and during sex. I recommend ditching the old belly-wart reserve and upgrading to a piggyback for trouble-free sex. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #18 July 1, 2005 QuoteToo old and too fat to jump them now but I still like to wear them around the house and during sex. Not thats a scary thought. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #19 July 1, 2005 QuoteQuoteToo old and too fat to jump them now but I still like to wear them around the house and during sex. Not thats a scary thought. Sparky *** "When in doubt....!" ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites