patworks 5 #1 January 20, 2006 LANDING ROUNDS: Rear risers, PC 'flare', hookturns, and PLF If time is a continum all of the above are on the scale. And you think swooping is hard? Risers --- if you are jumping a round canopy 'flat' (meaning pre-PC): do this--- as the earth approaches, grab all risers, put your feet and knees together, and pre-tension therisers (pull down, sorta), so that on contact your upper body weight stays supported by the canopy longer than your poor feets. Rear Risers -- Jumping a modified round 'flat' pre PC 28' with an aggressive gore removed mod like TUE, TU, double-L, U, et al. --- Do above, but just w/ rear risers. With modified flat canopies, pulling down on the front risers makes you a lawn dart. Rear risers kill some of the down thrust of the gone gores. Paracommander "Flare" --- on touchdown with a PC (actually 1-pubic-hair AGL), bury both toggles. Hook Turn (Done with 28' flat rounds -modified). Accuracy approach in winds above 0 MPH: Head directly at the target center. When god tells you that you are nearly as close as Newton allows, bury the oppisite toggle. Result: the canopy swings your frail body out and you pick up 3-5 feet towards dead center. SOP. Pea gravel or not. [Jumping in winds above 15 MPH can knock you out, no shit] Hook Turn (done w/ PC-like rounds) -- A "High" wind survival landing in winds above 12-20 MPH when only the fools and James Gang jumped. Head directly at the ordained impact point. About 55' above where god tells you that you are gonna die, bury a togglet. With skill, the canopy does a nice 180 turn into the howling wind. Suddenly, your certain damage changes to a soft enough landing. Skill is mandatory. Luck is better. Plan 'B' is to land close behind a large building. Bury both Toggles and pray. When landing in a down-rotor you are fucked. Round, square, or whatever. Thump. Bury both toggles just before the bottom drops out. (Alternate plan is to avoid the invisible down rotors, Ha!) NOTE: under a square canopy, most all of the above cause death. Have a nice day. Rear risers-Pat Works nee Madden Travis Works, Jr .B1575, C1798, D1813, Star Crest Solo#1, USPA#189, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NelKel 0 #2 January 21, 2006 I remember at Z-hills last year, about this time, I saw a jumper under a round reserve. When I got there they told me not to land to the east, I think east, anyway it was swampy. That is where this jumper was heading under his reserve. I have never flown a round, that was not being pulled by a boat, or a truck. But seeing that and also on TV movies (paratroopers) I don't see how you guys survived. BUT some of you did. I can not imagine jumping a round, actually I don't think I would want to. I am spoiled by squares. Since I started jumping I have seen crossbracing/sub 100 sq. ft. squares become the norm. I wonder what the future holds? Maybe one day when I'm older, I'll have a conversation with another jumper to the effect. " remember when AAD's weren't cyberneticly implanted?" -or- "remember when we had actual pilots flying the plane?" LOL Anyway the jumper from Z-hills survived, but I remember he was hurt._________________________________________ Someone dies, someone says how stupid, someone says it was avoidable, someone says how to avoid it, someone calls them an idiot, someone proposes rule chan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wartload 0 #3 January 30, 2006 Quote Paracommander "Flare" --- on touchdown with a PC (actually 1-pubic-hair AGL), bury both toggles. Thanks. After seeing people speculating how the method that I used for years either didn't work, or was likely to cause broken limbs (or both), it's nice to see you confirm that it was standard practice. I'm sure that I learned it from one of the early style & accuracy competition types...and didn't break anything because of PC flares. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swoopin43 0 #4 March 15, 2006 Yea I remember in the mid 70s when I was waiting to turn old enough to jump a guy was jumping a starlight ( kinda like a P.C ) and man he was jumping in like 25 MPH winds and did a hook turn and it give him just enough drive to make a bea Quote tifull stand up landing . Hook turns aint new folks but I don,t think they were killing people like on square canopies today.Blue skies ! ! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zoobrothertom 5 #5 March 15, 2006 Quote Yea I remember in the mid 70s when I was waiting to turn old enough to jump a guy was jumping a starlight ( kinda like a P.C ) and man he was jumping in like 25 MPH winds and did a hook turn and it give him just enough drive to make a bea Quote tifull stand up landing . Hook turns aint new folks but I don,t think they were killing people like on square canopies today. The first canopy I owned was a starlite in a starlite container. I used to rear riser flare at landing for a nice stand up. Without the flare, you HAD to PLF it in. I learned the hard way not to swing your legs when you flared! My first flare I swung my legs out in front of me for the extra leverage and landed flat on my back. Wrapped my neck pretty bad over the reserve container. It's still a little sore sometimes to this day. Oh happy daze!____________________________________ I'm back in the USA!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
