stratostar 5 #1 May 22, 2006 Many posters here have asked to see some photos of our vintage collection, so here is about half of the collection shot. All but five or six of these rigs in the photos are owned by Steve Stewart. All of these have under gone a rehab and repair, parts replacement type program, most have been washed and the rest will be. Billy webers SST is in repair wash repack stage,almost done. Many master & SR. riggers have built this collection over the last few years. They fix um and jump um. There are four other complete rigs being worked on right now and not shown, for a total at the dz of 20 rigs. We can count another 17 rigs (not shown) owned by jumpers at the dz (the collection builders). Rigs date between 1964-1980. 1. SST racer MK-1 lopo, thanks billy weber 2. Guardian TR-7 23ft russian, lopo 3. Security crossbow pioneer MC-3 (ripstop MK-1) Lopo 4. pioneer para-twin papillon lopo 5. security crossbow MK-1 lopo 6. 1977 wonderhog SN#944 MK-1 lopo 7. mini system MK-1 26ft phantom 8. Mini system MK-1 mills 24 9. Rodriguez "rods rebel" MK-1 23Tri-con 10. Stylemaster Jumbo PC lopo, thanks Garth Taggert 11. Mini system MK-1 26ft phantom 12. stewart 4-pin MK-1 26ft phantom 13. Stewart system MK-1 lopo 14. Stewart system MK-1 lopo 15. pioneer B-4 64 switlik T-10 (3 jumps only) lopo 16. pioneer B-4 jumbo PC lopo There have been a lot of who helped to build this collection thanks to Steve Stewart,Tommymc,Skybill,Jerry Baumchen,Garth Taggart,Rush MC,Billy weber,Bill Cole,Skinnyed. And many others, Thanks for your help, parts,and old rigs,canopies and manuals. Gee ya think maybe should have put this in history? Greenies feel free to move it. ~you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #2 May 22, 2006 Excellent! I owned four of them, an SST, Guardian, Crossbow, and a Wonderhog. I probably jumped a couple of others. Does that make me old? I wonder where my old Top Secret is now? -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #3 May 22, 2006 Not a Streamlite in the bunch. So sad. bozo bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakeItHappen 15 #4 May 22, 2006 What ever you do, do NOT jump that crossbow2 the way it is rigged. The left main riser is routed UNDER the reserve cable housing. Don't know what's going on with the bottom main pin. Looks like the main is closed, but the cone and grommet are not being used. .. Make It Happen Parachute History DiveMaker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #5 May 22, 2006 QuoteMany posters here have asked to see some photos of our vintage collection... Very cool stuff. What dropzone is this at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drjump 0 #6 May 22, 2006 Great pin check from a photo. Sure looks like an accdental reserve deploymet waiting to happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BKR 0 #7 May 22, 2006 Is anybody who could tell me what was the first piggyback on the field. It seems to me it was the Crossbow system. Thank you for your infos. JérômeJérôme Bunker Basik Air Concept www.basik.fr http://www.facebook.com/pages/Le-Luc-France/BASIK-AIR-CONCEPT/172133350468 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yossarian 0 #8 May 22, 2006 how many jumps/what licence would be needed to jump a round with a front mounted reserve? i was speaking to an instructor at my dz and he didnt know but said he would have thought b-license because once trained on modern systems the reserve drills are so different that more experience would be needed to manage a problem. id really like to jump a round canopy, both as something new and also as its the image i always had of a parachute Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #9 May 22, 2006 You would be correct, however if you look to the bottom of the container you'll see the last cone not pined, the main is being worked on and the container was stuffed in order to get it to stand up for the photo, the risers are empty right now. ~you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #10 May 22, 2006 An A licence and training. ~you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drjump 0 #11 May 22, 2006 Re: Parachute Manual by Dan Poynter, 5.250, page 195, GQ Security Parachute Co., Loy Brydon helped develop the Crossbow Piggy Back system in 1964. Pioneer Parachute Co. developed its system in late '64 and marketed them in 1967.--Doc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #12 May 22, 2006 QuoteAn A licence and training. ~ I didn't need an "A" lic. to jump a round and chest mount. My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #13 May 22, 2006 That was then, this is now,LOL. ~you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #14 May 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteAn A licence and training. ~ I didn't need an "A" lic. to jump a round and chest mount. Youre right Sparky.....by the time I had my A I didnt have to jump a belly reserve anymore. :o) bozo bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #15 May 22, 2006 QuoteI didn't need an "A" lic. to jump a round and chest mount. What license did you have to have to jump a "high performance" StratoCloud when they came out?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,354 #16 May 22, 2006 Hi Strato, Re: "pioneer B-4 jumbo PC lopo" If that is the one you got from me, a couple of corrections: 1. It is a Pioneer 4-pin main container but not a B-4; B-4 was/is military surplus. 2. The PC is a Mark I, not a jumbo. Also, does that Stylemaster still have the solid/split saddle on it? If so, contact me off the board; I would like some info from it. Thanks, Jerry PS) A phenominal collection, kudos to you guys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crewdog2 0 #17 May 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteI didn't need an "A" lic. to jump a round and chest mount. What license did you have to have to jump a "high performance" StratoCloud when they came out? The policy where I learned to jump was: 100 jumps on a round before you could jump a square. I guess it's just the opposite now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueSBDeath 2 #18 May 23, 2006 Dude, these are great!!!! I will post shots of the PC and container I jumped in Oct soon, but here are shots of my "first" rig, I am not even shure of the container type, however; the reserve was a 24 foot flat and the main was a Sierra. ArvelBSBD...........Its all about Respect, USPA#-7062, FB-2197, Outlaw 499 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zoobrothertom 5 #19 May 23, 2006 Awesome collection! Does the wonderhog still have a bellyband? My second rig was a wonderhog serial # 2??. I had it converted to a legstrap after about 100 jumps on it. Sold it years ago. Here's a question/opinion for you old bellyband jumpers. I was taught to deploy my bellyband with my knuckles forward to prevent the bridle from coming up between my arm and body. When I changed over to legstrap, I continued doing this and never had a bridle wrap my arm or hand. The only time, one time, I lazily reached back and just grabbed and tossed. Sure enough, found my self going through 1400' unraveling it from my wrist! Anbody got a Starlite system to add to the collection?____________________________________ I'm back in the USA!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BCA 1 #20 May 23, 2006 Nice collection. I have owned and jumped several of those rigs, including the surplus B4, the security crossbow, the mini system, the style master, the wonderhog, and my favorite the Rodriguez style container which I still have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #21 May 23, 2006 Oh man, those pictures bring back some memories. The lineup shot especially, there was a time when the rigger's trailer looked like that on any given weekend. I'm feelin' the love all over again... Question though, how come the bungees aren't hooked up on so many of the main containers ? The containers are full and I can see the outline of the pilot chute inside, is this just a "wear & tear" issue, like you don't want to hook the bungees up unless the rig's about to be jumped ? Beautiful job, hat's off to you guys ! Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #22 May 23, 2006 QuoteIf that is the one you got from me, No the one we got from you is not in the photos, it is owned by one of the jumpers. One of these days when everyone has their rigs I will photo the second half of the collection, another 17 rigs. Arvel, dig those colors, we got one wonderhog with a sierra set up on hand deploy, 3-ring, lopo. And a second canopy in a bag, looking for a home. Zoobrothertom, No the bellyband I thnk was removed, none of the wonderhogs have the old style. The one in the line up is sweet looks spanking new and is set up BOC,3-ring. Bca, It's a nice H/C. Only one I've ever seen. Tbrown, your right the rigs don't get stored with the bungees tight, do to wear. I know what you mean about the line, it's even better to see all of them lined up. I like seeing them too and jumping the ones I own, it is fun to help other guy's find stuff and fix it, in turn they help others, there are a bunch of people who own and collect stuff to jump, but the dz rigs were stored from the old days and needed some care/rehab. ~you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BKR 0 #23 May 23, 2006 QuoteRe: Parachute Manual by Dan Poynter, 5.250, page 195, GQ Security Parachute Co., Loy Brydon helped develop the Crossbow Piggy Back system in 1964. Pioneer Parachute Co. developed its system in late '64 and marketed them in 1967.--Doc Thank you DrjumpJérôme Bunker Basik Air Concept www.basik.fr http://www.facebook.com/pages/Le-Luc-France/BASIK-AIR-CONCEPT/172133350468 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #24 May 23, 2006 QuoteWhat license did you have to have to jump a "high performance" StratoCloud when they came out? They wouldn't let me jump my 7TU when I first got it because it was too high performance. I had almost 200 jumps before I got a Cloud.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #25 May 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteWhat license did you have to have to jump a "high performance" StratoCloud when they came out? They wouldn't let me jump my 7TU when I first got it because it was too high performance. I had almost 200 jumps before I got a Cloud. *** The was the 'Rule' at my Dz... 200 jumps B4 'Riding a Cloud'! I actually got to do it about 25 jumps ahead of that because I won a bet, getting 3 D.C's one Saturday on my Pap! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
