D B Cooper Unsolved Skyjacking

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Florence Schaffner said he isnt' Cooper. I guess, now, he is just one of 1,000 suspects, hoping to be the man.

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The FBI did not show her any pictures of Duane. If you or someone else showed her pictures - this would be wrong. I have pictures never seen by the public that I want her to see...and to ask her questions. These pictures should be presented correctly with other suspect mixed into the mix along with other so called look-alikes. Time does things to the memory.


Once I do this with Florence and with Tina then I can rest. But, there is something else brewing out there right now which makes your case for Mayfield and my case for Duane - moot! If you spent more time researching and listening - then you would be privy to this also.

I expect we shall all know the truth someday very soon. Sooner than expected and it will be a surprise to all.

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Florence Schaffner said he isnt' Cooper. I guess, now, he is just one of 1,000 suspects, hoping to be the man.

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The FBI did not show her any pictures of Duane. If you or someone else showed her pictures - this would be wrong. I have pictures never seen by the public that I want her to see...and to ask her questions. These pictures should be presented correctly with other suspect mixed into the mix along with other so called look-alikes. Time does things to the memory.

Seems that whoever showed her pictures would then have to show her hundreds of pictures of EVERY suspect by your standards. This makes no sense.

I seriously doubt that Duane could morph himself into a "thick well built" man regardless of his "chameleon" abilities. I also seriously doubt that he could "morph" his rather thin visage into a "broad thick forehead" regardless of makeup or your aspirations.

To be honest Skyjack, I'd entertain continuance on a Halloween party picture of Duane as a skydiver, but you can't even produce that.

Brenda

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I seriously doubt that Duane could morph himself into a "thick well built" man regardless of his "chameleon" abilities. I also seriously doubt that he could "morph" his rather thin visage into a "broad thick forehead" regardless of makeup[/reply
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Duane was well built and with a high slanted forehead - study the composite and his pictures. He had a slanted forehead which is what the artist in all cases has tried to depict - this remark from the artist himself who did the composites.

shadows on each side of the forehead in the composites - this was the only way of showing depth in those days. They did not have the computerized composites back then.

Talk to one of your local portrait artist and ask them to explain this to you. The composite is NOT showing a broad forehead - that is not what the witnesses described.

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[jackwilson 0]

Where to start:

First: Sky;

please refrain from making assumptions as to people's identities. You have me pegged as several different people, some of whom, I have never heard of.

I'm not associated "publicly" with this case at all.

I work behind the scenes, you could say.

Have you ever thought, that mabye people are interested in this story, who don't have a suspect, but, think this story is interesting?

Look at Zodiac? They made a movie about it, with no closure. Why can't the same be true with this.

I think it is wrong to assume anyone is Cooper, and I think it is wrong to eliminate anyone, until the case is solved.

I know who the "new" suspect is, just like I have known about all of the new suspects, the past year.

I have friends, who work in the news departments, and give me the scoop, and access to online news, which is only available to the news groups.

As for Ted, the first time I heard about him, I thought it was a joke. I thought the two guys on KOIN were just trying to sell a book.

but, then, I noticed that Ted and Himmelsback seem to have a relationship, before the hijacking, which I find suspicious.

I think it would be a huge blunder, if the fBI passed on investigating him, simply because he is too short.

IF you watch the KOIN show, which I have, Himmelsback says Ted would have been a logical suspect, but, he passed on looking at him, since Ted called him that night, not because he was too short, or had blue eyes, etc.

I think Himmelsback's comment was "that he has to live with the fact that he is Ted's alibi".

Very interesting. That was news to me. Seems odd that a FBI agent, would know a skydiver, and that skydiver, knows the agent is in charge of the hijacking? Plus, isn't an alibi, relate to knowing where someone is during the crime, not after it was completed?

Then again. We all know, Himmelsback is no fool...

I just can't see him being fooled, and not looking at someone so obvious. Heck, Himmelsback trained police personnel while working as a FBi agent, and was in charge of all hijackings in Portland. He must have had a stellar record.

So, who was Cooper?

Duane, Ted, McCoy, or the new guy.

I think the new guy, which I am very familiar with, contrary to your deragatory statement, is very interesting.

Thing is, why would someone like him, need assistance lowering the aftstairs?

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I am trying clear up some FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) issues before I can actually release information regarding the statements witnesses made upon being interviewed. Most of the information released has not been released by the FBI, but by individuals associated to the case.

I hope, once I get clarifications, the case can be freely discussed.

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Talk to one of your local portrait artist and ask them to explain this to you. The composite is NOT showing a broad forehead - that is not what the witnesses described.

Florence Schaffner states clearly on the 80's Unsolved Mysteries episode that not only do the widely circulated sketches not look like Cooper, but that he had a "broad forehead". This was why she agreed to work with the sketch artist hired by UM on a new sketch.

BTW...that sketch looks nothing like Duane.

Brenda

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FOIA...on a 35 year old hijacking case?

~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

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FOIA...on a 35 year old hijacking case?

Ya, why share all of the information on the 302's, and then tell us, you can't discuss it.

Isn't it a little late?

Truth is, I have no clue to your identity.

but, I believe none of which I read, and only half of what I see.

So, until I am able to read the 302's, I am going to keep the options open.

I just can't believe, that the 41 people on board, and the ticket agent, all came within 2 inches of each other on the description of Cooper.

We are suppose to believe, his height is set in stone, yet, his age varies from the 30's, to the 50's?

Certainly, one person would have to be way off on their estimate, which is standard in any case.

I dont' know, but, I have a feeling about this one.

BTW: Technically, Duane is too tall to be Cooper.

The description is 5'10-6'.

Duane was 6'1, and was wearing shoes, which put him at 6'2 or 6'3. So, do we eliminate him as well?

I think it is ridiculous to eliminate anybody, unless, they have an airtight alibi.

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Duane was 6'1, and was wearing shoes, which put him at 6'2 or 6'3. So, do we eliminate him as well?

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Wilson: You are wrong on his height:

prison records show Duane at 6 ft with shoes on. The shoes he had on (they were all beat up) did not have much of a heel (less than 1/2 inch) in the prison release file. Yes, I have pictures of him being INDUCTED into the Canon City prison and being released - dated 1962. I do not know how reliable these prison release thing are, but I would think they would be dead on.

The statistics are quoted on a poster sitting on a box at his feet. This is one of the photos I have acquired that I AM not going to post until the right time comes.

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[jackwilson 0]

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Duane was 6'1, and was wearing shoes, which put him at 6'2 or 6'3. So, do we eliminate him as well?
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Wilson: You are wrong on his height:

Actually, I'm not, according to the web. This is an excerpt from the US News report about Duane. IT's available on the net.

Handwriting match. In May 1996, Jo checked out a library book on D.B. Cooper. "I did not realize D.B. Cooper was known as Dan Cooper," Jo says. The book listed the FBI's description: mid-40s, 6 feet tall, 170 pounds, black hair, a bourbon drinker, a chain smoker. At the time of the hijacking, Duane Weber was 47, 6 feet, 1 inch tall, and weighed around 185 pounds. He had black hair, drank bourbon, and chain-smoked.

I also noticed how the author left the part out about Cooper being 5'10-6', stocky, compact, with a medium to muscular build.

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Excerpt from Himmelback's book, which contradicts statements made on this forum:

On page 33, of Himmelback's book, he states the following: IT relates to the pasengers being released in Seattle:

"But Finegold and other passengers were vague in their knowledge and information about the man now identified from the passenger list as Dan Cooper. Estimates as to physical characteristics-- height, weight, age--- varied, and little was known of his personality. FBI agents learned that he spoke to no one while waiting in Portland, where he had boarded, and he remained virtually, isolated, in Row 18 during the three hours they were together aboard the aircraft"

He further states:

"But FBI agents had their first solid lead in the case, a name, and a description. Dan Cooper, age 30-55, about 5 feet 10 inches in height, with an athletic build, dark hair cut short, dark brown eyes, described by some as piercing; swarthy complexion, wearing a dark colored suit."

AS for the ticket agent, Dennis Lysne:

"he remembered the name, Dan Cooper, and associated it with a dark, middle-aged man in a business suit. OTher than that, Lysne remembered little else from his brief encounter with the hijacker."

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"Speculation existed that Cooper may have pinpointed a drop zone by a red aircraft beacon light, just north of the search area.. An aeronautical chart of the area revealed a public use airdrome close to the search area, and another civilian airdrome futher south. Skydivers had also used an open area near Lake Merwin"s Aerial Dam as a jump site, and farther south was a designated parachute jump site near Orchards. Both jumpsites were along V-23, the path of the jetliners projected flight."


So, I hope this clears up mis-information.

These quotes are from the man, who was in charge of this case, Ralph Himmelsback.

[airtwardo 7]

So, I hope this clears up mis-information.

These quotes are from the man, who was in charge of this case, Ralph Himmelsback.

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Um....he never did track down 'D.B. Cooper' did he.

~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

[skyjack71 0]

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The book listed the FBI's description: mid-40s, 6 feet tall, 170 pounds, black hair, a bourbon drinker, a chain smoker. At the time of the hijacking, Duane Weber was 47, 6 feet, 1 inch tall, and weighed around 185 pounds. He had black hair, drank bourbon, and chain-smoked.

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Wilson this is how it is:

The book I was reading had a lot mis-information and was mostly fictional. It was NOT Himmelsbach's book, but a fictional book base only in part on the skyjacking. Written by Max Gunther.

This was the only book in the library about Cooper. I had told a friend of mine about the things Duane said in the hospital and the false identifcation and other paper that had been returned to me after I sold his van. Duane had been dead over one yr.

This friend ask me if I ever thought Duane might be Cooper. I ask who that was and then I told him that Duane had a past and was very secretive. At that time I knew little about Cooper.

I checked that book out and when I read it (remember part fiction and part fact) it was May 24 1996 and I was on the phone to the FBI.

I would not see or read Himmelsbach's book until several months later.

f you want to dispute the actual FBI files then go ahead. That only serves to confuse the reader. Duane's criminal records and his prison profiles are reliable. When you go get a drivers license they never measure you.

Please do not confuse Himmelsbach's book with Gunthers. I did not read Himmelsbach's book until much later after I contacted him and had called the FBI.

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I am trying clear up some FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) issues before I can actually release information regarding the statements witnesses made upon being interviewed. Most of the information released has not been released by the FBI, but by individuals associated to the case.

I hope, once I get clarifications, the case can be freely discussed.

Oh I'm pretty sure the case is and can be freely discussed as this is a free country we live in. We're all adults here, and I don't think we need Santa's approval on this one.

Forgive me, but I don't see much relevance in the 302's as they would probably reveal what we already know and have discussed. That being that witnesses can be very unreliable. Or are you inferring that because something is released under FOIA and is on a 302 that it's fact, and anything other than someone's statement?

It's been said of the legal prfession, that often the MO is nothing more than "shoveling smoke". Somehow I don't think they have exclusivity on this one.

Brenda

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This friend ask me if I ever thought Duane might be Cooper. I ask who that was and then I told him that Duane had a past and was very secretive. At that time I knew little about Cooper.
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Right. Other than the small article in the paper, and the comment that Duane said in 1979, about "that is where DB Cooper came out of the woods", and "maybe, I was on the ground".

I checked that book out and when I read it (remember part fiction and part fact) it was May 24 1996 and I was on the phone to the FBI.
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The Gunther book is 99% fiction. The only thing close to real, is the name Cooper. You do realize, that some woman fed the story to Gunther, and he took it from there. My favorite part, is that Cooper lands injured, and needs assistance from some woman, who falls in love with the terrorist. Then, a raccoon, finds the money bag, and drags the money bag away, and it is never found. Sounds possible to me.

I would not see or read Himmelsbach's book until several months later.
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Okay, I wasn't there. Regardless, the Gunther book is fiction.

f you want to dispute the actual FBI files then go ahead. That only serves to confuse the reader. Duane's criminal records and his prison profiles are reliable. When you go get a drivers license they never measure you.
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Nor do they measure your height when you board an aircraft.

Please do not confuse Himmelsbach's book with Gunthers. I did not read Himmelsbach's book until much later after I contacted him and had called the FBI.

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I have not confused Himmelsback's book, with Gunther's piece of crap book.

AS a matter of fact, I have only referenced two books, Himmelsback's and Tosaw's, which are the only books worth reading.

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This friend ask me if I ever thought Duane might be Cooper. I ask who that was and then I told him that Duane had a past and was very secretive. At that time I knew little about Cooper.

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Right. Other than the small article in the paper, and the comment that Duane said in 1979, about "that is where DB Cooper came out of the woods", and "maybe, I was on the ground".

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Explain to me why you rip everything I say apart - just what is your purpose in posting here? My husband had died - I did not analyse the things he said in the hospital and I did not dwell on the past.

At that time I didn't even think about what he had said in 1979 - getting on with my grieveing and getting on with life was my only thoughts - have your ever lost someone you loved?

that if you talk about your deceased spouse that you could deter a suitor without hurting their feelings. So I talked about the things that Duane said in the hospital and what happened when I sold the van.

He had to tell me who Cooper was I had to called him 2 wks later when I was going to the library ask him the name of the man again (D.B. Cooper). I was busy trying to go on with life and getting my real estate license.

I took the book to the test with me to read the night before as I never cram for a test. I had taken a cram class earlier that day and realized that I truely need to study that night. Had I started reading the book that night I would never have made it thru the test. That book (even though it was fiction)was my introduction to Cooper and some of the facts relating to the crime.

I would not read it until I returned home - and on that night I spent most of the early morning hours on the phone to the FBI. I only mentioned the book because you had quoted me as having read Himmelsbach's book in the U.S. News and World Reports.

Try to understand a little of what I must have been feeling. I had been married to this man for 17 yrs. and I had just understood what he had been telling me in the hospital and in the things he had told me over the yrs. I DID NOT think much about it until I got hit over the head with a book - excuse the pun.

There is no need to badger me - with " you knew or yea sure" kind of things. 1. The remark he made on the trip to WA in 1979 - I accepted that as just a joke which is what he made me think after he said it. 2. His reaction to the article in the newspaper about the money raised my eyebrow, but it was not earth shaking. 3. His arranging for me not to see Unsovled Mysteries in 1980 was disappointing and not until after he died did I understand why he made other plans.

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First of all, I am not trying to rip "apart" everything you say. Only the things that I know are not a fact, or open to interpretation.

You have made a very serious claim, regarding your late husband being Cooper. We have a right to ask questions, and to make certain the information presented on this forum, backs up your claims.

Yes, I have lost more people than you could ever count. But, I don't use this, and some horrendous health concerns by someone very close to me, to garner sympathy. You are not the only person with health problems in this world.

Everyone has lost loved ones, and everyone has someone they love with cancer, ALS, Dementia, and other horrible diseases.

Trust me, you don't want to hear my sad stories, nor do I want the horrible things which have happened to me, and my loved one's to get sympathy from people on this board.

TRuth is, you attack people who have joined this board and question Duane as Cooper, and call them trolls, while you welcome questionable newcomer's, such as 1099, or whateve his name was, or Secret, who show up out of the blue, with information, which seems to bolster your case, and then vanish, just like Cooper.

I won't back down, nor will I ever be unpleasant.

At the same time, I know the tricks of the trade.

I know how to obtain sympathy, and how to get people to back up my cause.

But, I refuse to go that route.

As a victim's right advocate, I will not tolerate someone turning a Terrorist, like Cooper, into some type of national hero.

Cooper, whoever he was, was a thug, who terrorized women, changed the methods used to screen for passengers, cost over 3 million to investigate this case, and left two women looking over their shoulder, the rest of their lives.

So, maybe, I am a voice for them. Maybe, I don't like Cooper being applauded, or being some type of Robin Hood, when he was a thug.

Whenever someone questions Duane as a suspect, you pull out the little old lady looking for the truth card. Truth is, you should welcome questions, because, with a strong case, you will only gain followers to your quest, not lose them, as long as you can prove your accusations.

Could Duane be Cooper? maybe, I just don't know.

But, I think it is a bit pre-mature to call yourself the widow of DB Cooper, until either the FBI, or some other source which is respected, makes that conclusion.

In addition, when Brenda questioned the sketch done by Florence, you basically accused her of picking on you. Personally, I dont' think she is. ASking for an explanation, is not an attack. Truth is, florence did say, Cooper had a wide forehead.

You simply want to push aside any information, which points as any other suspect.

FTR: the unsolved mysteries episode with Florence Schaffner aired in 1988, not 1980. I'm not sure which show you are referring to.

In some posts, you explain as if Duane was hiding his past, then, you tell us stories about that is where Cooper came out of the forest, or a man can make roadflare like like a bomb, or I hurt my leg jumping out of a plane, or Duane losing 175k by burying the loot in a bucket.

If Duane wanted to hide his past related to Cooper, why would he return to the NW, find the 6k, be unable to find the other 194k, and instead of burning the money, decides to throw it into the Columbia river.

Not one bank, one person, was still looking for those serial numbers. If that money was legible, which many bills were, he could have washed the money without a problem.

And, why would he wait 7 years, to find the money? Why not either leave it, or come back earlier? WAs he that wealthy? And why bring your wife with, to find money, and the biggest secret in the Northwest?

I don't know if Duane was Cooper, or an accomplice, or where he was on 11/24. I do know, I need more evidence, and less stories. More facts, a receipt, a positive ID, some skydiving experience, someone who can tell us that Duane was familar with jets, or ATC, or DZ's, or D-rings, etc?

When you come public, and want people to buy a story, you open yourself up to questions.

IF you answer those questions, with excellent, proven techniques, you only build momentum in your case, and before you know it, there is a book about your husband. If you dodge the questions, or accuse people of attacking you, then, people wonder, why won't she answer the questions.

Truth is, I followed this case from the day it happened, and have always had an interest in the case.

If you were McCoy's widow, I would be asking her the same questions, until I received sufficient responses. I would also tell McCoy, that Florence reportedly said her husband was not Cooper.

You can't pretend the flight attendants physical description of Cooper is accurate, yet, they are wrong when it comes to eliminating Duane as Cooper.

Either the flight attendants are not reliable witnesses, or they are. Can't pick and chose.

I think this case is a sad story, of how "not" to invesigate a case. Shortcuts, turned a very easy case to solve, into a case that will never be prosecuted, because some agents, decided to take shortcuts in their methods.

We all are aware of your loses, and I'm sorry that Duane and your current husband passed.

At the same time, I have recently lost a close family member, and I dont' expect people to give in to my story, simply for this reason.

Have you ever thought of the flight attendants?

do they have nightmares? Have they ever married?

did they ever again enjoy flying? Why did Tina leave the airline? Was it because of Cooper?

Why have the girls gone into hiding? Why no public interviews? ARe they still alive? Have they recovered? Did Cooper ruin their dreams?

Those answers, are much more important to me, than who was Cooper.

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You have made a very serious claim, regarding your late husband being Cooper. We have a right to ask questions, and to make certain the information presented on this forum, backs up your claims.

TRuth is, you attack people who have joined this board and question Duane as Cooper.

At the same time, I know the tricks of the trade.
I know how to obtain sympathy, and how to get people to back up my cause. But, I refuse to go that route.
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I agree that others have the right to ask questions and I try to answer their questions and back them up as best I can....with what I have learned and my limited knowledge of many things concerning this crime, I need all the help I can get - Hence, why I am here in DropZone.

I do not mean to attack anyone. There have been attacks against me with posts consisting of jibberish that doesn't mean anything and does not add substance to the subject.

The fact that I am ill is just that a FACT. All I am trying to do right now is to get as much done as fast as I can - I don't want anyones sympathy, but I need for the urgency of my quest to be understood. I dont know the TRICKS of the TRADE., ARE YOU A PROFESSIONAL WRITER?, well, I am not, just a simple person looking for answers.

could have done most of that in a private message as I try to do when they make themselves available by private message.

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I will not tolerate someone turning a Terrorist, like Cooper, into some type of national hero.

Cooper, was a thug, who terrorized women, changed the methods used to screen for passengers, cost over 3 million to investigate this case, and left two women looking over their shoulder, the rest of their lives.

So, maybe, I am a voice for them. Maybe, I don't like Cooper being applauded, or being some type of Robin Hood, when he was a thug.

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This is why Duane had to hide his past - I believe that if you do the crime you do the time and he was well aware of my strict and straight back-ground. If I had known about his criminal background I would never have married him.

very careful about Tina and Florence. Tina was kind and answered no question - I in turn was kind and forced NO pictures on her. I had requested to meet with her and she said "NO". I have not talked to her since and out of concern for her took a different avenue to find my answers.

I know Tina was only 20 yrs old and the toll this crime took on her innocent life...Knowing Duane's background as I now know it....I feel sure we do not know all of the story.

I wasn't certain I had Florence and it was a small community and I did not want to damage what she had built of her life by asking if she was Florence Shaffner and who I was.).

I think I keep hoping that Tina and Florence will read my postings and together decide to meet with me. That is just a dream - but, it would end the nightmare.

the end of the "Robin Hood Syndrome" and then we would all know who Cooper was - I do not celebrate what I know, it has been a low point in my life that has gone on since 1996 (when I first understood who he was and the extent of his crime). Perhaps, I know even more than I have told.

If you feel that an injustice has been done and it has. The only way to end it once and for all is to find out WHO COOPER REALLY WAS. This is my goal.

Most would rather just let this unsolved case go on and on. With pressure put on the authorities and our government to bring an end to this it could be solved.

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I think I keep hoping that Tina and Florence will read my postings and together decide to meet with me. That is just a dream - but, it would end the nightmare.

I believe one of the two Oregonians have shown Duane's picture to Florence, along with McCoy's and it was rejected. Aside from the fact that you've failed to produce one iota of evidence that Duane is Cooper this should pretty much close the door on the matter of "truth" dont'cha think?

Our neighbor who taught my hubby to sky dive has over 1800 jumps to his credit. He's 69 tomorrow and I consider him to be about a 1 in a million suspect. Likewise, I consider Duane to be about a 1 in a billion suspect. No one is ever going to pursue our neighbor who could possibly have jumped out of this plane. Duane is nothing but a dream, designed to setup the widow for life with either a book or movie deal.

Truth? TRUTH?? Sky, when are you going to accept reality that Duane is nothing short of a con man and impostor with no meat on the bone?

P.S. Sky...do not send me more PM's asking me for forgiveness and pity for your health or financial situation. It's time to deliver. No more nonesense. Sorry but my "collection basket" pity has been spent.


Brenda

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I believe one of the two Oregonians have shown Duane's picture to Florence, along with McCoy's and it was rejected.
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What picture was shown and how do you know they showed her his picture.
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Duane is nothing but a dream, designed to setup the widow for life with either a book or movie deal.
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P.S. Sky...do not send me more PM's asking me for forgiveness and pity for your health or financial situation. It's time to deliver. No more nonesense. Sorry but my "collection basket" pity has been spent.

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forgiveness or pity. I asked you not to be so rude and explained to you what my health situation is. That statement doesn't deserve an answer.

WHY would I reveal that to you?. There is nothing to reveal as it is excellent. Just what kind of game are you playing?

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[jackwilson 0]

Whatever happened to "Ckret"?

Is his absence related to 9/11, and his duties?

The guy comes out of nowhere, registers to this forum, makes such outlandish statements such as the following:

"if your suspect doesn't fit the physical make-up, you better find a new suspect".

Just how was Ckret able to guage Tina's height, given it has never been released. Is Tina really 5'8, and if so, was that in the 302's, or just how does "Ckret" know this? How tall was Florence, Alice, Mitchell, since we are going there? Why weren't their heights mentioned in his argument?

Sometimes, I wonder, is Ckret the infamous "DB Cooper", visiting our forum?

Could he be an FBI agent, or Tina, or Florence?

Or was his purpose, to simply throw cold water on any suspect that is under 5'10, or over 6'1? ****

One thing I know for sure, is that "Ckret" has never worked in Law Enforcement. Not one agent, would ever make such a bold statement, regarding the accuracy of eyewitness accounts.

Even the man who didnt' solve the case, Himmelsback, admits that the description of Cooper varied, and he was looking for a "compact" man. I didn't know a 6' tall man, could be referred to as "compact". If true, we need to change the name of "trash compactors", "compact cars", to more accurate names.

I always wondered why the "compact" parking spots in public lots, were so much smaller, than other spots.

It's also never been released that Cooper used the restroom, and if true, how does Ckret know, unless he was there?

There are few agents with "inside information" on this case, and none of them, has released these statements to the public.

It's a good way to lose your job, or your pension, or both. Not a very good risk/reward scenario for a seasoned FBI agent.

Of course, I'd be foolish not to give Ckret his say in this manner. But I want proof.

So, give us a link to the 302's, all of them, all 41 of them, along with Tina's height, the fact Cooper used the restroom, and we'll go from there.

When I've been questioned about my sources, I provide "links" or references to books, which can't be disputed, since I look up the information before I post, and the books are public.

BTW: Here's a link to the "official FBI poster of Cooper, along with his "official description".

Notice the sketch of Cooper, his high forehead, his physical description of 5'10-6, medium to well built, and "possibly brown eyes"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:DB_Cooper_Wanted_Poster.jpg

Just copy and paste the link, if it doesn't work.

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Whatever happened to "Ckret"?

Is his absence related to 9/11, and his duties?



Hes out riding around in his unmarked black helicopter.

bozo
Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:DB_Cooper_Wanted_Poster.jpg

Clicky linky

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Everything is moving in the right direction. I think all of those who have been dedicated to this case will be very pleased with how things are about to turn.