Conway, AR Plane Trouble

[bmcd308 0]

Anyone have any details concerning the rumor that a jump plane went down in Conway, AR this weekend? I heard that no one was hurt, but I have not heard anything about what might have happened.

[ChromeBoy 0]

There is a thread somewhere on here if you look around. I think it is in the Talkback Forum though.
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[diverdriver 6]

Here is what was on the FAA site.
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 4090D Make/Model: C182 Description: 182, Skylane
Date: 04/13/2002 Time: 2100
Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Unknown
LOCATION
City: CONWQAY State: AR Country: US
DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT LANDING WAS TOO LONG, PILOT DECIDED TO ABORT LANDING, ACFT HIT
TREES AT END OF RWY THEN CRASHED IN A FIELD ON OTHER SIDE OF TREES, 1 UNKN
INJURY, CONWAY, AR
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: Y
# Pass: 3 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
WEATHER: LIT 132053Z 15007KT 7SM SCT080 BKN250 27/18 A3000 LIT 132153Z 14009KT 10SM
SCT050CB SCT100 BKN250 26/17 A2999
OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: General Aviation
Departed: UNKN Dep Date: Dep. Time:
Destination: CONWAY, AR Flt Plan: UNK Wx Briefing: Y
Last Radio Cont: NONE
Last Clearance: NONE
FAA FSDO: LITTLE ROCK, AR (SW11) Entry date: 04/15/2002
Chris Schindler
ATP/CFII
D-19012
www.DiverDriver.com

[bmcd308 0]

great site, Chris. Thanks.

[diverdriver 6]

Copied from the Talk Back section:
Here is the NTSB link for the Conway, AR crash:
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20020422X00562&key=1
After reading it (and it is preliminary) I am struck by the comment about the pilot being a PRIVATE PILOT!!!!!!!! Have we learned nothing? Why are dropzones still using Private Pilots to fly jumpers? Why are we skydivers getting in these aircraft? Why does the USPA do nothing to stop this? This is totally unacceptable. The FAA has ruled that NO dropzone is allowed to use Private Pilots to fly jumpers. The "Club" exemption does not exist anymore.
I'm just glad all people on board survived this botched go-around.
Chris Schindler
ATP/CFII
D-19012
www.DiverDriver.com

[fred 0]

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I am struck by the comment about the pilot being a PRIVATE PILOT!!!!!!!!

Can you explain this? Isn't it the licensing that matters? I guess I really don't know anything about pilots, but I don't understand why 'private' is such a naughty word for a jump pilot.

[puffdaddy 0]

Just my few cents worth. Is it not the hours and the skills of the pilot that should be in question here. I know of many Comm and ATP rated pilots that crashed and burned. So who will fly the skydivers now? I just think that we should not jump to conclusions to soon. BTW Chris thanks for a good diverdriver site.

[diverdriver 6]

A Private Pilot license is your basic license to fly passengers. But if you get paid for flying or you advertise for people to come and jump out of your plane then you are a COMMERCIAL operation. You MUST have a Commercial Pilot's license to fly skydivers. The FAA has come down on operators that think because they don't pay their pilots that they aren't doing a commercial operation. That is completely incorrect. Not to mention that to get your Private Pilot's license you only have to have a minimum of 40 hours. Do you think that a pilot with 40 hours has enough experience and maturity as a pilot to deal with flying jumpers?
It bothers me because I play by the rules. I got the proper training to fly people for hire. That is the definition of Commercial Pilot. Anyone who gets payed to fly. It does not refer to Airline flying. Plus you have to fly the aircraft to a higher precision than a Private Pilot to pass the check ride. The FARs (Federal Aviation Regulations) clearly say what you can and can not do as a Private Pilot. There are numerous enforcement actions on pilots to show that you can not fly jumpers with a Private Pilot's license. Articles have been written in Parachutist about this topic. And if you have any doubt whether you can do it or not just call your local FAA office (called FSDO =Flight Standards District Office) and they will explain it to you.
Chris Schindler
ATP/CFII
D-19012
www.DiverDriver.com

[diverdriver 6]

Well, I agree that there are Commercially rated pilots who have accidents. But, I think I explained it a little why I feel we should follow the law first. When we can't even follow the FARs as is, then how can we expect any safety from a pilot flying jumpers?
Chris

[Lindsey 0]

Oooooh! I found out the other day that the pilot is the husband of one of my biochem professors.....
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