howardwhite 6 #1 January 30, 2008 OK, it's easy. But a cool picture, especially if you've never seen one land. This is a screen grab from a TV show, shot in 1989 at Turners Falls, MA HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3331 137 #2 January 30, 2008 Dehavlan Caribou I Jumped with the guys who invented Skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usedtajump 1 #3 January 30, 2008 Skydive Texas had a Caribou in the mid 90s that was pretty fun to jump but God was that thing loud!!!! Here's a Caribou in a more dramatic landing configuration.http://www.theaviationzone.com/images/vintage/c7/bin/c7_16.jpg Well, for some reason won't clicky clicky. The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #4 January 30, 2008 Quote Skydive Texas had a Caribou in the mid 90s that was pretty fun to jump but God was that thing loud!!!! Here's a Caribou in a more dramatic landing configuration.http://www.theaviationzone.com/images/vintage/c7/bin/c7_16.jpg Made it Cricky ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usedtajump 1 #5 January 30, 2008 Thanks Airtwardo, tried several times but for some reason it no workee. The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #6 January 30, 2008 Quote Skydive Texas had a Caribou in the mid 90s that was pretty fun to jump but God was that thing loud!!!! Here's a Caribou in a more dramatic landing configuration.http://www.theaviationzone.com/images/vintage/c7/bin/c7_16.jpg Well, for some reason won't clicky clicky. Another one for ya.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YydkHy2P0dU---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usedtajump 1 #7 January 30, 2008 Shit!!! Those damn things are dangerous, Really though, both instances were the result of pilot error. The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
namgrunt 0 #8 January 30, 2008 Quote Quote Skydive Texas had a Caribou in the mid 90s that was pretty fun to jump but God was that thing loud!!!! Here's a Caribou in a more dramatic landing configuration.http://www.theaviationzone.com/images/vintage/c7/bin/c7_16.jpg Made it Cricky anyone know where this occured the background looks like a fire base on the DMZ around 1967?? .59 YEARS,OVERWEIGHT,BALDIND,X-GRUNT LAST MIL. JUMP VIET-NAM(QUAN-TRI) www.dzmemories.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usedtajump 1 #9 January 30, 2008 Don't know the exact firebase but it was VN around 1968 and the pilot flew directly through a live fire lane that he'd been cautioned about twice. Read the article about the picture long ago but can't find it now.The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 6 #10 January 30, 2008 Well, the picture came from here. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #11 January 30, 2008 I have 3 jumps from them compliments of the US ARMY...not so much fun.. static line... night jumps landing in a friggin swamp..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #12 January 31, 2008 Another one for ya.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YydkHy2P0dU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you look closely, you will see that the all silver Cariboo has PT6A turboprop engines. I vaguely remember New Cal Air (?) of New Jersey converting a Cariboo ... I also vaguely remember the son of the company owner dying in a crash of their only prototype. That was back in the 1990s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #13 January 31, 2008 I believe that a/the company is still doing conversions, but that the crash was a significant set back. See:http://www.penturbo.com/html%5Ctcp.html---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 6 #14 January 31, 2008 The Caribou in the original picture was one of two from New Cal used at that boogie at Turners Falls, MA. A few more screen grabs from that TV show attached; poor quality, but remember they're from a TV show taped off the air 18 years ago. For those who have never seen one close up, they give you an idea of how big it is. A New Cal Boo was also used at Pepperell, MA, but had to operate out of Nashua, NH because its gear was too wide for the runway at Pepperell. You're right about the turbo conversion and about the death. As I recall, the FAA began sharply limiting (to 35 or so) the number of jumpers allowed in a Boo, making it economically less attractive for a boogie. Somewhere I have video of a spectacular "low pass" by the Caribou at Pepperell. The people who had gathered on the runway to moon the departing aircraft dropped to the prone position, pants down, as they saw the gear approaching. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #15 January 31, 2008 Yes, We also had a Cariboo briefly in Southern California. In January 1994, it showed up at California City, where I got to do a couple of jumps out of it, maybe even a tandem. Next thing we knew, it was hauling jumpers at Lake Elsinore. Last thing we heard, it was ferried to Texas. ... or was that the Cariboo that ended up hauling cargo in Alaska? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usedtajump 1 #16 January 31, 2008 IIRC, the Boo at Skydive Texas still had Army livery that indicated it had been with the Mississippi National Guard.The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zing 2 #17 January 31, 2008 I had a little experience with two DHC-4 caribous that hauled jumpers. The first was one that Gary (Elevator) Olsen brought to Coolidge in 1988(?) where I hellped strip the paint, got a bit of time as copilot on, and made a few jumps out of before Gary and Larry Hill flew it to Africa for cargo work. The angle of attack on short final is somewhat disconcerting the first few times, but in the hands of a competent pilot, it has impressive performance capabilities. I considered Elevator a competent pilot, and I was pleased to get some stick time with him in this one.Zing Lurks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,432 #18 January 31, 2008 Hi Zing, I remember a 'story' of about that time ( but prior to '88 as Jim Lowe got killed in the summer of '88 ) where Elevator & Lowe were working for some cargo outfit and they crunched a 'bou. Did you ever hear of that? Quote I considered Elevator a competent pilot, 'competent', Wow, I guess I'll have to fly with you sometime; I always consider him a very damn good pilot. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zing 2 #19 January 31, 2008 This Caribou, N700NC, belonged to Jim O'Meara and was at Elsinore for a while in 1994. I got a little stick time in this one, too, but unlike Elevator, O'Meara was not a competent pilot and scared the hell out of jumpers several times. The last load it flew at Elsinore, the left engine threw a rod on the way to altitude. O'Meara elected not to shut it down and was barely able to maintain enough altitude to get back over the dropzone for exit. In fact, a few jumpers elected not to jump because of the low altitude. I wasn't on that load because I'd already told O'Meara I wouldn't copilot with him and would not get in any airplane he was flying. The airplane ended up going up to Alaska. I later heard that the plane crashed after the elevator control system failed and the pilots lost control of the airplane in flight. I don't know if O'Meara still owned the airplane when that happened. I do know that shortly before O'Meara left SoCal, the DEA was looking for him and the airplane left suddenly one night, leaving a bunch of people holding worthless jump tickets O'Meara conned them into buying. On the engine failure flight, the rod broke, detached one cylinder from the case, cracked the case and left one of the fuel/air intake manifolds hanging loose, meaning a highly combustible mixture was being sprayed all over a windmilling engine. It was purely luck that the fire damage wasn't worse. When I explained to Hobbs, the copilot/mechanic with very little round motor time and 0 large airplane experience, just how hazardous a situation O'Meara had put him and the rest of the load in, Hobbs packed up his tools and left.Zing Lurks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zing 2 #20 January 31, 2008 Hi Jerry, I never heard the whole story of Lowe's involvement with Elevator's Caribou, but if memory serves, the one that came to Coolidge was the second Caribou Elevator worked on. I do believe it came to Arizona not long after Jim Lowe died. I agree with you. Elevator is, indeed a damn good pilot. I haven't seen him for many years, but I heard a rumor a couple years ago he was in poor health.Zing Lurks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dust-It 0 #21 February 2, 2008 I'm sure you I were on the load out of the Boo that Larry Hill spotted .He did'nt trust anyone that knew how to spot and put us out on top of the AF jet!!!!!! I heard it before I saw it,oh and Tony Dell was pulling his legs straps tight on the way to the formatiom.I guess his rig lifting off his back about 6or8 inches in free fall got his attention!!!!!!! B.S.B.D. Chuckster Sure liked Elevators style Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zing 2 #22 February 2, 2008 Ahhh ... the good ole days!Zing Lurks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidlayne 5 #23 February 2, 2008 10 of them.I don't care how many skydives you've got, until you stepped into complete darkness at 800' wearing 95 lbs of equipment and 42 lbs of parachute, son you are still a leg! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,432 #24 February 2, 2008 Hi Zing, It's been a couple of years ( ~2 ) since I have seen Elevator but he was still in very good health then; lots of laughing and joking around, typical Elevator. He ran an aircraft maintenance shop on the MacMinnville airport for a lot of years. He got divorced about 2 yrs ago, sold everything and is now flying cargo in the Phillipines. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zing 2 #25 February 3, 2008 That's good to hear. Hope he's doing well.Zing Lurks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
